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Someone posted a link to this show home on Reddit

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StanfordPines · 16/02/2021 22:45

They wanted to comment on how small it was, and I agree.
I thought I’d share.
I’d be interested to see measurements and know how much they are asking for it.

www.revolutionviewing.co.uk/persimmon-homes/generic/the-morden/1/360/v-2/index.html?fs=true

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GinaJaffacake · 16/02/2021 23:09

The first home I owned was a smaller version of this with just one bedroom upstairs. The downstairs was 4.6m x 4m! I loved it and was so proud. It backed onto another identical house though so we didn’t have a back garden.

MrDarcysMa · 16/02/2021 23:12

Only a breakfast bar for 2- more like a couple starter home IMO

BarelyFunctioning · 16/02/2021 23:12

And with regards the middle class Mumsnet comments - I live in a house cheaper than this one (and received no help with the deposit to buy it. Didn't get onto the property ladder till my late 30s).

elsiebetts · 16/02/2021 23:12

Housing Associations build houses like this too.

GinaJaffacake · 16/02/2021 23:13

I’d take out the downstairs loo and use it as storage. Having a downstairs loo directly off your kitchen is grim. The storage would be more valuable both to live with and to sell on.

BarelyFunctioning · 16/02/2021 23:18

'British homes are the smallest in western Europe since Margaret Thatcher's government scrapped minimum space standards for all tenures except social housing in 1980, and Riba fear that further deregulation will lead to the development of even more homes that do not provide the space, warmth or light that residents want.'

https://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/poll/2013/apr/19/minimum-space-standards-social-private

Comefromaway · 16/02/2021 23:18

It’s a 2 bedroom terraced house. It’s a bit smaller than many of the traditional terraces but they don’t have gardens and often not an upstairs bathroom.

Comefromaway · 16/02/2021 23:22

@GinaJaffacake

I’d take out the downstairs loo and use it as storage. Having a downstairs loo directly off your kitchen is grim. The storage would be more valuable both to live with and to sell on.
I used to have a downstairs loo off the kitchen. It was fine. But in a house that size I’d get rid and use for storage.
Clymene · 16/02/2021 23:22

I used to live in a flat that was bigger than that.

StanfordPines · 16/02/2021 23:22

@Randominternetbitch

OP, your privilege is showing. The house looks perfectly fine to me and pretty similar to the 2 up 2 down we had when we first got married. Let’s not forgot that for some families in temporary accommodation, having more than one room is a luxury.
So it’s perfectly ok for house builders to build the smallest houses they can get away with because other people live in worse?

It’s a perfectly nice house, I just think it is shocking how small a house they think it is acceptable to build.

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Comefromaway · 16/02/2021 23:23

I’d love my in laws to live somewhere like that instead of the grotty two up two down they are in that’s falling apart.

BiarritzCrackers · 16/02/2021 23:24

Having a small home doesn't bother me; I have a teeny budget, and as long as there's a bit of out door space, I'm happy enough.

What does bother me is the scale of the profits made by housing developers for homes such as this. This developer makes around a billion in profits each year.

StanfordPines · 16/02/2021 23:24

@BarelyFunctioning

To people saying yes it's normal - yes it is normal. But that's because there used to be building regulations regarding the space inside homes that were removed during Thatcher's government. This is why houses built in the 60s and 70s seem so spacious now.

Modern houses like these take two minutes to build and developers are getting greedier and greedier. In order to open the wardrobe and access it in one of those bedrooms you'd have to move the chair.

That's who I take issue with - the developers. This is not snobbery - quite the opposite.

Exactly this.
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StanfordPines · 16/02/2021 23:27

@GinaJaffacake

The first home I owned was a smaller version of this with just one bedroom upstairs. The downstairs was 4.6m x 4m! I loved it and was so proud. It backed onto another identical house though so we didn’t have a back garden.
I had a friend who had a house like that. You walked in the front door straight into the living room/kitchen, which I think must have been a bigger living room than this as she had a sofa and an arm chair. Then upstairs was one bedroom and a bathroom. I was so jealous as I was in a tiny rented flat at the time.
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BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 16/02/2021 23:27

I agree the downstairs loo opening into the living area is horrible. There would have to be a house ban on doing poos in there. What really surprised me was that the headroom of the stairs raises the floor in bedroom 2, I've never seen that anywhere before and it really limits how you can use that room. Plus there's no wardrobe in bedroom 2.

It's far more like a starter flat that's been split over two floors than a proper house setup.

StanfordPines · 16/02/2021 23:29

@BlackAmericanoNoSugar

I agree the downstairs loo opening into the living area is horrible. There would have to be a house ban on doing poos in there. What really surprised me was that the headroom of the stairs raises the floor in bedroom 2, I've never seen that anywhere before and it really limits how you can use that room. Plus there's no wardrobe in bedroom 2.

It's far more like a starter flat that's been split over two floors than a proper house setup.

The headroom into the bedroom really limits the space in there. I’ve seen that in a few houses. In some places I’ve seen people build a wardrobe on top of it.
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Longdistance · 16/02/2021 23:29

Loo next to kitchen 🤢 horrid.
It’s an open plan kitchen, living and dining room.
I had a two bed semi many years ago as s as first house, the kitchen dining room were at the back, the living room at the front, no hallway, but a porch, one decent sized bedroom and a single upstairs with bathroom, though I did have a driveway and side access.
The beds in new builds are usually deceptive in size and not doubles at 4’6”, they use smaller to reel you in. Such a con.

PegasusReturns · 16/02/2021 23:30

6.75m x 3.71m is very small for a kitchen and living area. Objectively so. I don’t think pointing that out requires an privilege checking Hmm

StanfordPines · 16/02/2021 23:30

@PegasusReturns

6.75m x 3.71m is very small for a kitchen and living area. Objectively so. I don’t think pointing that out requires an privilege checking Hmm
Where did you find the sizes?
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Ihaventgottimeforthis · 16/02/2021 23:33

It's not necessarily the size, I've rented smaller places & this has a private garden - it's the cost & the quality.
Nearly 200k for a starter home?!
& I bet these places are just thrown together - I have lots of friends living in shit quality boxes.
(plus new builds now should really be required to be carbon neutral, have solar panels rainwater harvesting etc but that's a pipe dream really)

Mylittlesandwich · 16/02/2021 23:33

It does seem small to me. We live in a 3 bed terraced. I'll be honest there's not a huge amount of space and we only have 2 cupboards in the whole place. I certainly wouldn't like to live anywhere smaller.

NoSquirrels · 16/02/2021 23:34

@Ihaventgottimeforthis

Downstairs loo opening straight into kitchen/diner/lounge. Grimbo.
I suspect that’s why the laughable ‘dining room’ is this named - because it’s actually not legal to have a toilet opening directly off a kitchen...
FellowFlipFlop · 16/02/2021 23:34

I've got a 2 bed new build that I thought was small but we at least have a separate kitchen, an understair storage cupboard and a small en suite and I thought we were cramped. There's no way I would buy a house that tiny - bearing in mind you're not supposed to use the loft in the new builds where on earth would you even put stuff like your Christmas tree?

archery50 · 16/02/2021 23:34

Yes looks tiny to me. I could live with upstairs but don't like the completely open plan downstairs

PegasusReturns · 16/02/2021 23:35

@BiarritzCrackers posted the sizes. I assume this is a model of new build that is replicated across the country.

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