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Why doesn’t anyone want our house?!

488 replies

noitsachicken · 11/07/2019 13:21

Been on the market since January.
Dropped the price twice, recently switched agents.
Lots of viewings, generally positive feedback. People like the house, but no one wants to buy it!!

OP posts:
Justaboy · 13/07/2019 14:10

And I would have the solar panels removed. People don't want to deal with this kind of things

Well people should be able to deal with these sort of things.

And I predict there will be more of them as time goes by you'll see!.

SunshineCake · 13/07/2019 14:41

@BadAndGoodAgain the house number is clearly visible on the photos and I was also a bit Hmm at the name bunting being on show.

Retired65 · 13/07/2019 15:07

The house looks very nice inside but unfortunately there is no garage, the garden looks very small, there is not much space between your house and the next one plus the frontage is not very appealing.

Starfish85 · 13/07/2019 15:08

@mathanxiety I can't imagine having so much time on my hands that I would devote so much energy to being spiteful to strangers about their home

Op, your home is lovely. You're getting lots of viewings so that's not the problem. From what pp have said I would look into options with the solar panels as that's probably putting off people.

IvanaPee · 13/07/2019 15:26

@mathanxiety a lot of your “improvement” suggestions are personal to you and not actually that helpful.

jimmyjammy001 · 13/07/2019 15:36

House prices in Bristol have risen more than any other city outside of London over the past 7 years, they are around 20% over priced and suspect there will be a gradual decline over the next few years to bring them in line with peoples earnings, very risky paying over 300k for a 3 bed imo.

ChequersDog · 13/07/2019 15:44

@justaboy the problem isn’t that people don’t want solar panels. It’s that the OP has solar panels through a lease scheme which causes legal complications and difficulties getting a mortgage. Fully owned solar panels are a bonus for most buyers. Leased solar panels drastically reduce the potential buyers because most buyers and mortgage brokers are aware of the potential problems. This is the major issue for the OP selling her house.

Bluntness100 · 13/07/2019 16:05

The solar panels might not be an issue. If they had them approved by the mortgage lender and they meet the general mortgage lenders criteria (and that's all mortgage lenders) then the op should update the Sales blurb to say that.

If they don't, and she leased her roof space without mortgage company approval then the op has much bigger problems on her hands. Because her property will be unmortgageable, and removing them and buying out the lease, will be hugely expensive, and she may also have broke the terms of her mortgage.

So literally it's either all good, or it's an expensive nightmare.

wowfudge · 13/07/2019 17:11

Come back OP! As with all these kinds of threads you get good suggestions and constructive feedback as well as some posters who think they are Ann Maurice and some spectacularly unhelpful "suggestions".

I have never had such a tight morning schedule that I have ever wanted to, never mind being compelled to, share the bathroom with my partner. Side by side ablutions do not appeal to me and even with a double sink I wouldn't do it! I'd get up ten minutes earlier instead.

As for the kids ruining the living room carpet, here's the thing: you lock the French doors of the living room and make them come in through the side door to the hall if they've been playing out when it's wet and/or muddy.

GlamGiraffe · 13/07/2019 17:35

May have missed it as I'm shattered.
Freehod or leasehold?
Standard construction?
What's immediately arpund the house? Can you hear a busy road or trains? What can you see or are you over looked. Are the neighbour potentially undesirable if you haven't met them?
There is clearly no problem in getting people through the door from the details so it's nothing about the specifics of the house. It's something
they experience when they arrive.
What type of viewers are they overall?
Id pain t the coloured rooms in a shade like dulux timeless or similar especially the yelliw and remove lors of pictures, especially loads of very personally stuff. It makes a house more neural an people can envisage themselves there more. Think of the kitchen and carry it through a bit more to other rooms. Some viewers can't see past a room colour, but i suspect it's something outside the house in honesty.

GlamGiraffe · 13/07/2019 17:53

I wonder if the agent is pushing people to view ypur house that is really above their price range.they do do that hoping someone will fall for it. Other than that. Apart from previous suggestions buy el cheapo creamish floor length curtains for all rooms, (Argos, Dunelm sale, eBay?) Remove photo collection from wall pit up one large centralised picture- nothing wild. Again cheap. Maybe Homebase. ( choice homeward good if you have it). A couple o folded cream throws neatly positioned on sofas and cream cushions. Neutral bedding for viewing days in master and cheap thrrow/runner folded at end of bed. Think hotel. All make immense difference.
I wouldn't say a 3 bed without downstairs loo or ensuite is a deal breaker. I own one and I rent it. (It's worth A lot more more than your house, as in many mumsnetters would freak, not in a brag way- oh dear however i put that i sounds bad. Its in an expensive locstion. Bristol is an expensive location too, so i don't think it's that. It's clear on the details. Have you asked the agent outright?

GlamGiraffe · 13/07/2019 17:55

If people can't see the benefit of solar panels they are bonkers. I'd love some but aren't allowed the cost benefit is amazing.

mathanxiety · 13/07/2019 17:59

I am not being spiteful. I am not ranting. I am not shredding someone's house for the heck of it.

Some of you don't seem to understand that when you put your house on the market you need to highlight the potential of its good points and minimise any issues, especially if you are fairly firm on the lowest offer you are willing to entertain. Online photos make visuals very significant in the process of marketing the property.

If you don't have blanket planning permission to knock down walls, build a conservatory/back porch, move an oven, and put in a downstairs loo, then you can really only do this by use of furniture arrangement and colour and by taking out clutter, replacing it with a suggestion of plenty of space and a lifestyle that is in accord with the price you are asking.

You are not selling your life to the next resident of the house. Your taste and your belongings should not be a distraction from the presentation of a commodity you are trying to get someone to commit to buying. It will most likely be the biggest financial commitment the buyer will have made so far, maybe the most expensive thing they will ever purchase. You are trying to suggest a lifestyle to potential buyers, and so is your competition.

I love all the books too - my own home is floor to ceiling books. But the books are jammed into those shelves and that doesn't highlight the potential of the unit to function as either bookshelves or a beautiful feature in which a family might place nice decorative items. To better highlight the shelves I would take out at least one third of the books and move select stylish objects and framed photos or art into the one third of the space left. I would expect the cupboards at the base of the unit to easily hold any children's toys or board games so I would remove the chest that probably contains children's items by the look of it.

The way it is currently presented, you are trying to suggest that a family of two adults and three children could live comfortably in spacious surroundings - having plastic storage in bedrooms alongside fairly good sized wardrobes, games and other stored items visible on top of a wardrobe, items visible under the bed and more children's storage in the living room suggest that a family of three children might be up to their knees in belongings in a short time.

You position furniture to highlight dimensions of a room and also to draw the eye to nice features like natural light and attractive windows. So yes, move the couch because at present it isn't functioning as an indicator of dimensions or how many people could fit in that room after Christmas lunch, take down the family photos so that people can imagine their own family there, get a rug and a coffee table, both of which would suggest a very comfortable living room and would also 'ground' a room which has no central feature like a fireplace, put the armchair that is blocking the view to the French windows in or about the corner where the standard lamp is now, move the lamp to the space between the couch and the shelves, and put the poang chair over near the French windows with the ottoman close to it. Remove the freestanding children's bookshelf unit - there should be room for children's books in such a big shelving unit. Get a big, tall potted plant for the corner where the lamp is now.

The colour of the couch is dated. The green is lovely against a white background in the armchair upholstery and as an accent colour in the poang chair upholstery. But as the main colour in a big piece of furniture it does not suggest the lifestyle of 2019 and combined with the beige carpet and wall colour it makes for a drab look. You can pique interest by using crisper colours.

no you can’t see garden from kitchen but you can from lounge
Not being able to see what small children are up to in a back garden from a kitchen is a problem. Many caregivers spend time in the kitchen getting housework done while their children are out back playing, or possibly poking each other's eyes out with sharp sticks. You might like to know which it is while also getting dinner together. You might not even be able to hear them from the kitchen, given the layout.

Access from the back garden to the house only via the carpeted living room is a problem that will be immediately obvious if moving in day for the next buyer is wet because that carpet will be destroyed. Installing a gate at the front of the gangway and removing the gate at the garden end of the passage, thus making it possible for children to use the front door, might alleviate the issue of mud all over the carpet if it rains. Natural light and ventilation in that passage would help keep moss and mould down so for that reason too I would suggest a tall wrought iron gate that can be locked, at the front end of the passage.

I suspect serious buyers with young families are looking at this house - it has a good location with decent schools, and there are local employers whose workforce needs homes and can afford them in this range or a bit lower. It is a nice, solidly built family home with a good back garden where children could enjoy themselves.

But the potential buyers are being turned off by the combination of price plus cost or impossibility of changing details to make it livable if they have small children and two jobs (one bathroom and therefore one sink, for instance).

If you are not willing to drop price then you have to use the best foot forward method of attracting a buyer.

mathanxiety · 13/07/2019 18:03

Wrt the couch, and photos in general, &You can pique interest by using crisper colours...^
And it costs nothing to make sure the back cushions of the couch are lined up straight on photo day.

mathanxiety · 13/07/2019 18:05

Did that failed italic distract from my point?

daisypond · 13/07/2019 18:14

If people can't see the benefit of solar panels they are bonkers. I'd love some but aren't allowed the cost benefit is amazing. You seriously think 20k plus to buy the lease for solar panels is good value? Or you have 300k in cash to buy a house without a mortgage? You’re wealthier than most, then. And it’s nothing to do with what people want, it’s what the mortgage company wants.

PurpleCrazyHorse · 13/07/2019 18:16

If you're coming back OP, I do hope you get an offer on your home. It's always difficult when you get lots of very personal critique on your home but I hope you are able to see passed that maybe get to the bottom of why you've not had any offers.

Wishing you well, OP

LegoLady95 · 13/07/2019 18:47

Sorry, haven't read the whole thread, but when I first saw the picture of the kitchen diner I thought 'lovely, but why no French doors to the garden?' Then I realised (I think) that this is the front of the house.

Knowing how much time I spend in my kitchen diner, and with 3 kids, it seems back to front to me. I need to be able to see my kids in the back garden. I may be too fixated on this though as I have a disabled child who is out in all weathers and needs close supervision.

I realise you can't do much about it though.

mathanxiety · 13/07/2019 19:22

I have never had such a tight morning schedule that I have ever wanted to, never mind being compelled to, share the bathroom with my partner. Side by side ablutions do not appeal to me and even with a double sink I wouldn't do it! I'd get up ten minutes earlier instead.

Again, you are not selling your life or preferences and what works for you to the buyers. A family where mum and dad both work, both commute, and three children of school age are going to find themselves getting up really early in the morning if they want to leave in time and also clean.
Side by side sinks are a massive improvement over children, teens, and/or spouse banging on the door and whining about needing to brush their teeth in the morning.
The question is moot anyway since the one bathroom is very small.

As for the kids ruining the living room carpet, here's the thing: you lock the French doors of the living room and make them come in through the side door to the hall if they've been playing out when it's wet and/or muddy.

Yes, and if they are aged between 3 and 6/7 you will need to install a lockable gate at the front of that side passage or you risk them heading off to see the world instead of going in the front door. Spending money on a secure front gate might make the problem of the kitchen at the front seem less of an obstacle.

TigerTooth my home (a flat) is perfectly fine for my individual taste and how I live. However, if I were to put it on the market I would flip the sitting room and dining room areas (it's open plan) and put my couch in a nice big bay window in my current dining area, move my bookcases, and arrange chairs and lamps and the TV to suggest a comfortable area for reading or TV watching where I now have the dining area. The dining area would be moved closer to the kitchen, with the sitting room overlooking the street.
Reasons I have the dining room and sitting room as they are now are: downstairs neighbour turns up her TV volume under the current dining area so high that I would have to blast mine too in order to compete if I were sitting there watching TV at night. The bay window looks nice but it's draughty and nobody would be very comfortable there in winter. We generally eat in the kitchen so there is no need to have a dining area close to the kitchen. Potential buyers don't have to know any of those drawbacks.
I would spread houseplants currently mainly in the dining area around the flat to suggest ample natural light that is a lovely feature of my home for the purposes of photos, and also whittle down the books because they make the space look quite 'full'. I would also place a nice rug I have in the sitting area. It is currently rolled up in my storage locker as my cat wouldn't stop sharpening her claws on it. I would buy and arrange lots more plants in nice pots for my deck than I already have.

PCohle · 13/07/2019 19:25

you are not selling your life or preferences and what works for you to the buyers

Do you not see the irony in saying that and then posting screeds and screeds about your preferences regarding the colour of OP's sofa? Grin

Bluntness100 · 13/07/2019 19:27

If people can't see the benefit of solar panels they are bonkers

You're missing th point. Solar panels are great. The issue is these are leased, and that can make a property unmortgageable when you rent out your roof, and in the region of twenty grand to break the lease.

The issue isn't the solar panels. The issue is the lease. If it meets mortgage lenders criteria the op needs to state that in the sales blurb. If it doesn't, she needs to get it sorted.

loveyou3000 · 13/07/2019 19:28

Oh I love it! Especially the bookshelf wall. Looks perfect for a little family, perhaps the price is a little too steep.

wowfudge · 13/07/2019 19:29

@mathanxiety - I know of precisely no one who shares their bathroom routine with anyone else, other than small children being bathed together before bed. Plenty of people coexist perfectly happily in smaller houses with only one bathroom and they are not up at 4am in order to be able to shower alone. This is not just my life or preference.

Strongecoffeeismydrug · 13/07/2019 19:49

Nice house but lacks curb appeal.
Maybe be invest in some potable flower beds to brighten the front

mathanxiety · 13/07/2019 21:30

you are not selling your life or preferences and what works for you to the buyers
Do you not see the irony in saying that and then posting screeds and screeds about your preferences regarding the colour of OP's sofa?
PCohle
What is happening here is that I am able to recognise that beige walls plus a dated, nondescript colour on a big piece of furniture = drab, while you are not.

Avocado green or any shade reminiscent of it will always say dated. It will drag down the up to date upholstery, curtains, and furniture style that the rest of the room is decked out in.

Red for the couch would add an air of warmth and would help the room break free of the beige in the carpet and walls. She could also use the colour of the darkest flower motif in the curtains or the darkest colour in the poang upholstery, but the pinky red from the poang would complement the green in the armchair and the poang chair best.

I am talking about what might give this particular living room a shot in the arm, which is needed because of the beige colour on the walls and the beige shade of carpet on the floor. The reason to give the room a shot in the arm is that the OP is trying to sell her house.