How to get a £500k house free

[Judy1234]

www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23405477-details/Jobless+couple+with+12+children+are+give n+a+%C2%A3500%2C000+home/article.do

The thing that most strikes me is that the husband says he hasn't worked for 6-7 years, and in that time they've gone on to have another 5 children. That is what is wrong. It is one thing to be down on your luck and unable to support your existing family. That is what the state safety net is all about. But to go on regardless to add to your family
is totally irresponsible. I don't believe being in a new relationship gives anyone a 'right' to have more children, especially if they cannot support them.

I'm glad I don't live in Newbury any more!

if he was earning £300 a month as a shelf stacker he was only working p/t anyway! Cheek of it!

Sigh.

I'm a single mother, work part time and my DD may not be able to start nursery school in September because I need to be one place at 9am, and she starts at 9.15.

She's going to be picked up by a creche, then I'll pick her up at 3 when I finish. 4 buses and 2 trains a day for me. A logicstical nightmare for me, but I want to work.

Pisses me off reading stuff like this.

Why? I was a single parent for a long time and worked when I could and didn't when I couldn't but when I remarried I didn't have 11 more children

I'm just ranting because my childcare plans have fallen down round my ears today regarding DDs school.

I'm not playing the single mother card, I never do. But I want to work. And I struggle.

Oh never mind I'll go and rant to myself

Rant away Eric its a complete nightmare

I have 2 children. Would love a third. However we struggle to afford the mortgage on our 2 bed, plus everything else that we need to pay for.

I think we will only ever have 2 children.

Why can they have that choice of having more kids when we can't?

at the risk of sounding soppy Eric, your dd will grow up to be very proud of her mum and the efforts that you have made to look after her.

Far more proud than the children in the OP, I'll wager

How can they possibly be claiming "job seeker's allowance" when they are patently not seeking work?

It's a pretty easy workaround, Soupy. You just go to interviews every now and again and deliberatey bomb them.

Meanwhile, plenty of people struggle along and limit the number of children they have because they don't feel right about having them and expecting the government to give them a living.

Surely that'll cut no ice if the benefits people read that article!

Wouldn't count on it, Soupy. THey'll pull some other stunt like say they're depressed about losing JSA and go for Incapacity Benefit instead.

For some people, their 'job' is working the system to they never have to work.

"When asked why they don't work, the couple say that looking after their children is a full time job. And they claim they would earn less working than they do claiming the dole.

Mr Gillespie has revealed that he quit a job at stacking shelves at Asda before he had even started, when he realised the £300 a week he would earn would result in a £400 benefits cut. "

Kind of damming IMO

Not these people though, they're not scroungers

But these people are so far away in lala land that they don't think about things like that. Rather like that foul mouthed harridan scrounger who was on wife swap. Her delightful waste of space dh was done for working while claiming benefits.

They don't think that the basic rules of life apply to them.

Want more kids, have them, the state will pay.

I might say that I sometimes feel I was born to be waited on hand , foot and finger, while traveling round the world, but I don't actually expect other people to pay for it!

Wonder if she gets any maintenance from ex-h

It's people like this who give benefit claimants a bad name. This tiny minority cause so much bad feeling. Tw*ts.

Totaly agree with you soupy

Their children will grow up thinking it's the norm to claim benefits, see the things they get from not working and the cycle will continue.

In work I see people like this every day. This is what I'm up against.

I am a tutor on courses that are aimed at getting these people back to work.

And my target is 70%

No matter how hard we try, confidence building, help with childcare, courses, work placements, shit hot CVs that I bust my gut over, blood, sweat and fecking tears, if these people are allowed to continue claiming benefits if they don't work then they will continue to claim them.

Simple as that

Good rant eric, agree

quite, it is very sad. I teach a fair few kids whi's only (realistic) ambition is to leave school and sign on. Like their parents and grandparents

Totally agree with you Eric.

Social welfare is all very laudable, but cossetting people to the point where you buy them a house for £350k and then spend £150 k doing it up. Madness I tell you.

DO you think people like this actually have loads of kids SO that they don't have to work. After days like today I think they should get paid more cos I know I simply could not have 12 kids.

You never know (statistically unlikely I know) but one of those kids could become a valuable member of society contributing financially. Now living in a well to do area with good schools it become more possible don't you think.

The system is at fault that makes them better off not working. The Government was really trying to get over that problem with tax credits but it looks like it's not quite there yet. If they made some minimum obligation to work at eat for one half of the couple for say 3 hours a day such as serving the lunches in local schools as a condition of your job seekers' allowance then that might incentivise people to get a better paid job, i.e., one that was more than the job seekers' allowance with that compulsory workfare.

It does look like a particularly nice house and the £150k of improvements seems a bit over the top. If the child burnt down the last one they shoudl go on a black list not be rewarded for their carelessness.