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Sellers roll call! How many viewings are you gettingin this stagnant market?

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Pixiedust1973 · 15/01/2018 14:45

I thought it would be nice to update each other with our progress as I seem to of lost the other sellers thread!

My house has been on the market on & off since April last year. We found a house we liked, got a buyer before putting in an offer. Had a low offer but managed to negotiate them up & the house we want down to an acceptable level, just! Turns out after many months that their buyer can't proceed so we decide to cut off from our old agents & start afresh with a 25k reduction for quick sale, making us without question the best house in the area for the price! Comparables being 40-50k higher! Im in an expensive part of Surrey btw, hence silly money for very little!

Been on 55 days now & had 11 viewings, 2 cheeky try their luck offers we can't accept because they're 30k below our asking price already reduced by 25k. Id say that given how stagnant the market is we're getting a reasonable amount of interest. Getting lots more hits online since the new year & hopefully its only a matter of time. The viewers we are getting are proceedable viewers, mainly chain free. Probably explains the low offers! Hmm Had a second viewing on Friday & awaiting their feedback today. Thought they were keen but the later in the day it gets the more nervous im getting!

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GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/01/2018 22:42

@Lostlily, you're not in Herts, are you? Because your story is similar to that of our (former) buyer it's uncanny!

Lilmisskittykat · 18/01/2018 23:10

Pixie. I think the problem isn't so much people are viewing houses they can't afford just that they read post like yours...

'They had originally been priced 42k higher. We had accepted a 36k drop from our original asking price, which was the lowest we could go to to buy on.'

And think well why the hell not view a house slightly out of my price bracket and throw a cheeky bid in. I've started to convince my other half now to start looking 20k higher then we are willing to pay as it is just reading everywhere online like asking prices mean nothing.

However, I'm sorry for the feedback it's hard to not take it personally when it's somewhere you have lived in and loved. As long as you know all the snagging jobs are done and the house is clean and tidy just don't let it bother you.

Pixiedust1973 · 19/01/2018 01:01

Hi G1ggle. I will keep everything crossed that this all works out for you. Do keep us posted!

Lilmiss. Absolutely you should be looking at houses priced 20k higher than your budget. (Unless you're looking at very low priced houses of course, or ones you know have been reduced or are already realistically priced) It makes perfect sense to do so, especially nowadays when many houses are so wildly overpriced. Personally, in the bracket we're looking at we have been looking up to 50k higher, possibly more if we knew a house was overpriced & tracked these properties to see how long they'd been on for & what interest they had, any reductions etc. I really know my market & have been tracking obsessively for about 2 years now. Grin

The main problem nowadays is that most people haven't bothered to do their research & don't know the market at all, or they think that a quick look at recently sold prices & putting 2 & 2 together & making 5, or Zoopla estimated values, (which are so easily manipulated, I don't suggest anyone takes seriously) is enough to give them the information they need. They also take greedy EA valuations seriously, who are still working on 2 years ago's figures & adding a bit on to win the client & bump up their figures with the intention of getting their vendor to reduce at a later date. This leaves a huge amount of overpriced property on the market which nobody is prepared to pay for.

Then there's the people like myself, who have bought & sold many times, who do know the market & don't want to faff about, so price to sell to start with, but still expecting a reduction in the current market, finding that viewers, haven't done their homework & are tarring everyone with the same brush. We are also having the clear problem where most vendors simply don't get it yet that the EA have overpriced them to get their business, hence unless we get a buyer soon for ours we won't have anything else to look at because of the overpricing.

The key is to find a chain of people all willing to reduce down accordingly & then at the end of the day everyone is a winner.. except heres where the FTB comes in. They have done their homework & know the market is dead they hold all the cards, so they, quite rightly so, are looking to get a bargain! Im all for it & VERY realistic about pricing. More than most tbh, but there is a limit as to how much anyone can be expected to reduce down in order to move on.

I really should take my own advice, because I have done this many times before. It is hurtful when someone is rude or makes an insulting offer. But these people are merely trying their luck. I was super offended when I got offered 160k for a house id paid 195k for only a few years earlier. It wasn't a realistic offer, it was a punt. Eventually I got 190k (which still hurt, but it was a shit market, & I had dropped the vendors 20k when Id bought it so alls fair etc)

The key is to hold your nerve & everything will come good in the end. Rinse & repeat! That is our motto here ladies! Grin

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Lostlily · 19/01/2018 04:32

Nope I am in the Midlands. House prices have gone up a lot in last few years.
Mine is a beautiful property but it is a detached bungalow and large garden, agent says that with bungalows its about the 'right' person just coming along as there is a limited market, also with older people who tend to like bungalows, not all of them want so much garden to look after?

I don't know, it sold within days last summer when we first listed and then we took it off all autumn, went back on last Monday for £25k less and not a sniff Sad

FrancoisOnTheMove · 19/01/2018 04:49

Those who track the market... question from a newbie to all this - I understand how you can keep tabs on any price reductions but how do you make yourself aware of how much interest a property has had? How can you tell?

Photos all done. We should “go live” tomorrow. Need the agent to get our for sale board up too.

Katurah · 19/01/2018 05:39

We're in the north. Our 3 bed end of terrace beautiful home went on sale on Monday. 8
viewings booked so far. One on a nearby road that was similarly presented but with a garden (we just have a yard) went for over 10k above asking price today so I'm cautiously optimistic. There's just not much out there to buy at the moment. I've seen nothing we would offer on but want to be in the best possible position when we do - hoping we sell to a first time buyer (likely).

Jayfee · 19/01/2018 05:49

We are in Kingston on thames and the house next door went under offer the day before brexit, came off a few days after the out vote and is still on the market.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 19/01/2018 09:48

Ah, just a coincidence then LostLily.

I really felt for our buyer. She'd fallen in love with our house and had been so looking forward to a fresh start for her and her DD.

We didn't manage to find another buyer before Christmas so took it off the market and are trying to decide whether to try selling again or cough up and extend.

Sounds like extending may be the way to go!

G1ggleloop · 19/01/2018 10:49

Got our first viewing booked for tomorrow. Not letting myself get too hopeful though

Pixiedust1973 · 19/01/2018 11:29

Its still very early days Lostlily so don't panic just yet. Your house sounds wonderful. My last place was a bungalow, but they are indeed an acquired taste. I'm surprised when you say prices have gone up a lot where you are tbh, but I don't know your area at all so I wouldn't have a clue. Since Brexit the market has changed drastically for most, so if you are genuinely finding its the opposite where you are then you most certainly have nothing to worry about, & why did you reduce your price if you feel prices have increased so much? Or is this just what EA are telling you? Have you actually done your own research for at least 6 months prior to putting your house on the market?

Francois, if you check the Zoopla selling site it actually shows you exactly how many clicks each property has had since it was listed & in the last 30 days. Some EA also make other information available to their buyers. I know exactly how many views I have had on the EA & Rightmove websites. I am also tracking some houses, (the competition & those of interest) with Purplebricks, & they email me every time somebody books to view one of my tracked properties, if any change is made to the advert, price etc. Its a really useful tool! Your EA will also be able to give you information on click throughs on Rightmove etc as they have full access. You just need to ask them. I don't see why they should object! Hope your sale is swift for you & you are in one of the good areas to be selling at the moment!

That sounds very positive Katurah. Hopefully one of these viewings is the one for you. There does seem to be a lot more movement up north than in the stupidly priced commuter areas of the SE. If only everyone would get & read this memo it would benefit us all lol! Do you have anywhere in particular you are interested in buying? I have found doing a leaflet drop in roads of interest has worked for me on more than one occasion. Plus, if you get someone before they go on with an EA they are much more likely to be open to a price reduction, given they'll save on EA fees by selling privately!

Jayfee. Im a little bit further south than you & this is exactly what im finding tbh, but many vendors & EA are adamant they want pre Brexit prices. Some are lucky, but most hang around for ages playing musical EA before either reducing or removing their property altogether. Even those priced to sell are hardly flying off the shelves. Its horrendous here! I have been tracking one particular house, because the owners viewed ours, it is in the next street to the local outstanding school, immaculately presented & had everything possible done to it. They priced it very much to sell, if a little low tbh. When they viewed they said they'd had silly offers already. They liked our house & were looking to improve & extend it in several ways to make money & move up the ladder. I felt they'd sell it very quickly, but it disappeared off the market only to reappear with a 10k increase 6 weeks later. I can only assume they were having the same trouble we are & despite pricing to sell were getting really silly offers, so felt their only option was to increase. Not sure if I agree with it or not, but I understand!

Tbh Greebols, if you like where you live & your neighbours then id seriously consider extending as oppose to trying to move in this market.

Good luck G1ggle. Everything crossed for you. Flowers

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veuveo · 19/01/2018 14:19

Nothing back yet about my offer
I don't think that's very good form.
Overnight to think about it, then make the call

Easilyflattered · 19/01/2018 14:21

So some viewers who previously viewed before Xmas have asked for a second look on Sunday.

Previously they liked it but the agent told them their intended offer would probably be too low. They've come back and the agent reckons theyre now talking realistic numbers, plus they can now see what next door completed at pricewise in mid Nov, which is a very comparable house to ours.

So is this another glimmer of hope? I was so fed up last night I drank most of a bottle of wine.

Easilyflattered · 19/01/2018 14:23

Veuveo personally I would leave a potential buyer dangling for an answer over the weekend, so I'd expect to hear today

Easilyflattered · 19/01/2018 14:24

*wouldn't

Pixiedust1973 · 19/01/2018 14:49

Id get your EA to chase them up veuveo & remind them that you have viewings this weekend, so if they want to get things tied up they should agree now. Fingers crossed!

Sounds hopeful Easily. Fingers crossed for you too!

Flowers and Wine all round!

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omnishambles · 19/01/2018 16:20

Its a shame we cant all just sell to eachother with people cutting out the ridiculous expensive estate agents and being honest about their own houses.

We only saw things within budget btw - bang on the limit. Mainly as I would never made a cheeky offer, its just taking the piss I think.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/01/2018 16:40

You really have to watch EAs and blurbs. It seems that some of them can only write the same old cliche-ridden drivel.

There is a house for sale near us where a major selling point isn't even mentioned - a very short walk to a pedestrian/bike entrance to Richmond Park. Anyone at all unfamiliar with the area could easily be unaware, since it's not in your face.
They've included the usual old blah about 'bars and restaurants' in town, though.

veuveo · 19/01/2018 17:30

Well I'm not sure what my EA did, but they have offered the asking price!!!

Easilyflattered · 19/01/2018 17:33

Good stuff!! At least there are serious buyers about then Smile

How exciting!

Viviennemary · 19/01/2018 17:37

House prices in that part of the country do seem very over-priced at the present time. And with the possibility of interest rate rises I think buyers are being very cautious. The only prices you can go off is the actual selling price of any houses that have sold in the last few months. Anything else is just fiction. I am expecting a house price drop overall in the next couple of years. But it's anybody's guess.

Viviennemary · 19/01/2018 17:38

Well that's good news. Hope it goes through OK.

G1ggleloop · 19/01/2018 18:45

Now got two booked in for tomorrow. Starting to let a little bit of hope creep in. But we live next to a train line, so handy for the commute but can put people off. Both viewers tomorrow live on busy main roads so our house is quieter even with the trains. You never know

1haudyerwheesht · 19/01/2018 19:30

It seems to be the opposite in Scotland. The last house we bid on went to a closing date and sold for 65K over the valuation. 😨

HelenTheHunter · 19/01/2018 22:57

We had positive noises from the people doing the second viewing today so we are really hoping for a sensible offer tomorrow.

Lilmisskittykat · 19/01/2018 23:27

Thanks for the advice pixie re prices ...

And it's already sounding more positive on this board already 😊