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Original poster

Need advice. Really upset by landlords behaviour

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amazegumball · 07/02/2015 20:36

In a 12 month fixed term agreement which runs out on 12th march and go into a month by month contract.
In the Summer (when my baby was 2 weeks old) I was advised the landlord is selling the property. I explained my situation and said not only will i find it difficult to accommodate viewings with a newborn but we are halfway through a fixed tenancy so he cant.
A week after xmas i get an email saying the property will now be put on the market and two months notice will be given after my fixed term runs out.
Im devastated as i love my home and my kids are in the local school not to mention i have a fitted kitchen and bedroom so will have to fork out for new.
Letting agents emailed last week. Said landlord will be coming on monday to take pics. I was away at the time and said its wasnt convenient.
Just received another email( 5.30pm today ) saying the landlord WILL be coming this monday morning at 10am bringing with him several agents and can i make the house presentable?
I responded saying Monday wasnt convenient (its my bday and ive planned a day out) but the next day was.
Ive just received a email back saying -

Sorry it's going to have to be Monday as it's all booked in with the agents. The landlord left it last week as you were away but cannot change it again.

The landlord wants to keep disturbance to a minimum and will work with you as much as possible but is only required to give you 24 hours notice to enter the property.

Surely i have to agree to this first??
Also if he sells the property do i (as i tenant) go with the sale?
Fed up of moving house every 3 years

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Nolim · 08/02/2015 18:58

Op i know first hand that having a bad LL/TT relationship is extremely stresful. If i were you i would do the following:

Talk to the LL directly ( not the agents as they have their own agenda) and try to reach an agreement. If that is not possible then hire a solicitor and let him deal with the LL and the agents.

Original poster

amazegumball · 08/02/2015 19:05

The agent is a one man band who is good friends with the ll. He ( the agent ) didn't even know he couldn't end my fixed term agreement in the summer as I still had 7 months left.

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UmizoomiThis · 08/02/2015 19:06

Hi op. If you don't mind, what did the lady advise about the deposit? Because even if it's not protected, I recall reading elsewhere that all the LL needs to do is pay a penalty,get it in a scheme and then the section 21 is valid again (and that it only takes a couple of weeks at best). Just curious if this was correct, as there's a lot of people advising based on experience rather than quoting law, and it's always sort of implied if the LL didn't protect the deposit, the LL can't make you leave eveeeer (whereas elsewhere it's been described as filing appropriate paperwork and resubmitting it).

Gorja · 08/02/2015 19:11

I think you need to accept you need to move. My LL came round in January and gave me two months notice to leave by 1st April.I cried for about two mins before plastering a smile on my face for the kids.
Felt panic about finding new house, deposits etc in the time frame.

Now it's Feb, we found a fab new house, new schools for kids and move beginning of March. We are twiddling our fingers now wishing we could move quicker.

Had anybody told me this back in Jan I wouldn't have believed them.

Get proactive, find somewhere else, let the landlord sell up and move on.

Original poster

amazegumball · 08/02/2015 19:16

Yes umi it's just a stalling method I don't intend to use its just useful to know.
Gor - that's positive to hear

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ScrambledEggAndToast · 08/02/2015 19:17

Would you be able to do pics and email them?

Original poster

amazegumball · 08/02/2015 19:26

Maybe but they mentioned about other agents coming too

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bryonyelf · 08/02/2015 19:42

I'd also decline permission to take photos inside that show any of my personal possessions.

specialsubject · 08/02/2015 19:50

Piglet John, most landlords believes the last landlord's reference - because the last landlord may be very keen to lose a nightmare tenant. Surprised at you joining the bile-spewing landlord haters.

no, boots tenants are not 'bottom of the pile'. There are rights as we keep saying. Boring old facts, eh.

plenty of good advice offered here and the OP has been repeatedly told her rights, and given suggestions for getting what she wants to happen.

This is descending into the usual ill-informed playground crap so I'm hiding it. May you all get what you deserve.

PigletJohn · 08/02/2015 19:53

specialsubject will never see me say that I am not a landlord-hater, but I am a hater of anyone who attempts to bully people and deprive them of their legal rights.

I'm not too keen on landlords who fail to obey the law on deposits though.

Toughasoldboots · 08/02/2015 19:55

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 08/02/2015 20:09

tough, I wish you were my LL (not that my own doesn't seem perfectly nice).

special, I don't see much 'bile' here. The OP was in a tricky situation, seems prepared to compromise and consider things, and has found out her LL has done something dodgy with her deposit. It's not a fun situation for her, but she's really had some unpleasant posts directed at her.

Toughasoldboots · 08/02/2015 20:13

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 08/02/2015 20:14

YY - that's the attitude I take with my landlord, and, honestly, I don't see anything in what the OP says that suggests she is any different.

Most of us don't act like wankers just for the sake of it.

FishWithABicycle · 08/02/2015 20:28

I think you're shooting yourself in the foot by being any less than 100% cooperative and accommodating. By keeping you there till completion he is massively increasing the odds that the buyer will be a btl landlord who wants to keep you on. Anyone who wants to be an owner-occupier will generally steer well clear of places with a sitting tenant where everything can be delayed for weeks or months if the tenants refuse to budge and have to be formally evicted. When the new landlord buys the property surely you want them to hear nothing but good things about you, and you will hopefully keep your home.

If you try to delay things and avoid being helpful you're only going to make it more likely that you're out sooner rather than later.

tellmemore1982 · 08/02/2015 20:45

There seems to be an awful lot over over-thinking going on on this thread.

OP, don't let this issue become any bigger than it needs to, it seriously isn't worth it. You have nothing to gain. Be polite and firm but not obstructive, then move on.

Good luck tomorrow.

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amazegumball · 08/02/2015 21:07

I really don't think I am being uncooperative by offering a visit the next day instead

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bitofanoddone · 09/02/2015 08:38

S0, 5 months after you moved in, you were told that the LL needed to sell the property? Now, 7 months later, they are getting the house sale prepped for the end of your 12 month contract. Is that right?

Original poster

amazegumball · 09/02/2015 08:57

I've lived Here for nearly three years now but yes they are prepping the house for sale. Still haven't heard anything back!

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bitofanoddone · 09/02/2015 09:21

I think they are being heavy handed but there is no reason that you have to fork out for new kitchen and bedroom if you find another with the same.

What is the rental market like where you are>

Original poster

amazegumball · 09/02/2015 10:05

Rents go very quick buts sales very slow . Still no reply!

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Nolim · 09/02/2015 10:08

Replay about what? Apologies in advance if the answer is obvious.

IKnewYou · 09/02/2015 10:10

BTW HAPPY BIRTHDAY

hope you have a great LL/estate agent free day

ItMustBeBedtimeSurely · 09/02/2015 10:19

I believe if the deposit isn't protected, the LL has to pay you three times the amount. So make sure you so report it, because that should cover your moving costs.

Nolim · 09/02/2015 10:23

Yes the landlord can be liable for up to three times the deposit but you have to go to the small claims court for that. And in that case is up to the judge. Before being able to go to court there is some legar procedure.

Disclaimer: i am not a solicitor so check with your own solicitor.

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