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Need advice. Really upset by landlords behaviour

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amazegumball · 07/02/2015 20:36

In a 12 month fixed term agreement which runs out on 12th march and go into a month by month contract.
In the Summer (when my baby was 2 weeks old) I was advised the landlord is selling the property. I explained my situation and said not only will i find it difficult to accommodate viewings with a newborn but we are halfway through a fixed tenancy so he cant.
A week after xmas i get an email saying the property will now be put on the market and two months notice will be given after my fixed term runs out.
Im devastated as i love my home and my kids are in the local school not to mention i have a fitted kitchen and bedroom so will have to fork out for new.
Letting agents emailed last week. Said landlord will be coming on monday to take pics. I was away at the time and said its wasnt convenient.
Just received another email( 5.30pm today ) saying the landlord WILL be coming this monday morning at 10am bringing with him several agents and can i make the house presentable?
I responded saying Monday wasnt convenient (its my bday and ive planned a day out) but the next day was.
Ive just received a email back saying -

Sorry it's going to have to be Monday as it's all booked in with the agents. The landlord left it last week as you were away but cannot change it again.

The landlord wants to keep disturbance to a minimum and will work with you as much as possible but is only required to give you 24 hours notice to enter the property.

Surely i have to agree to this first??
Also if he sells the property do i (as i tenant) go with the sale?
Fed up of moving house every 3 years

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 09/02/2015 15:20

She's not on dangerous ground! What fucking bollocks. She's legally living in her home that she pays rent for. There is no legal dangerous ground here.

ClockwiseCat · 09/02/2015 15:21

The OP, in the nicest possible way I would say: there is being right and there is being pragmatic.

If you can't buy and are on a low income you will be reliant on rental. Getting access to good properties on a low income can be helped enormously by having a good landlord's reference. It's all very well having a gang of cheerleaders on here saying, 'Yeah, you go girl, stick it to the man!' but they are not the ones facing an imminent move. That move will be much easier with good references.

I really do understand your frustration. It feels unfair because you're renting, you're a good tenant and if there was any justice you would be able to stay there but while it may be your home, it is not your property. If you really want to annoy your landlord I would start looking for somewhere else and try and negotiate a longterm lease.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 15:33

Arghhhhh!
I just want to tell him he's a prick and they are a pair of bullies!!
Ok this is my final draft to him

I am not making this hard. I simply want to state I do have a legal right of peaceful enjoyment. This is law. It does not mean I am going to refuse entry but I do not want to be made out to be difficult if I couldn't genuinely make your pre made appts and have offered alternative appointments.

All I ask is you respect my family life and home and I'll do my best to help the landlord with the sale.

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Kvetch15 · 09/02/2015 15:34

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 15:34

I want to call his bluff about evicting me but is it worth the risk?

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 15:37

His section 21 isn't valid anyway because of the deposit issues. He doesn't know that though.
He's running a shitty operation by the sounds of it.

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Kvetch15 · 09/02/2015 15:37

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IssyStark · 09/02/2015 15:45

Kvetch15 peaceful enjoyment is correct in Northern Ireland (where I'm from), apologies to OP.

OP - think this last draft is good.

Want2bSupermum · 09/02/2015 15:46

As a landlord I see where you are coming from but also you are in a zero sum position. If I were you I would speak to the landlord and see if they have other properties that they rent out. If not, start looking now for a new place in the same location that is in budget. Once you know your moving costs I would ask the landlord for help moving out. I gave my tenants a months rent towards their moving costs.

Most landlords have more than one property or know other landlords who have property in the area. Also speak to the school. They might know someone locally. Local school here is a goldmine for stuff like this. Rented out two properties this way so far this year.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 15:48

Kvetch no need to be patronising

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 16:02

Ll only has one rental property. Don't know about the agent but I wouldn't feel safe using them again.

They already have photos btw. They are already using the ones that were advertised when I moved in

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lem73 · 09/02/2015 16:17

Op I just want to point out to you that there is a high chance your LL will sell to an investment buyer and you won't have to leave. Why don't you talk to him and the estate agents about this possibility? That would be a win/win situation. Also has the estate agent suggested doing an open day so they can do multiple viewings and you only need to get out of the house once.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 16:35

They have said they will try for an investment buyer but will accept an offer from anyone.

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OnceUponATimeAgain · 09/02/2015 16:37

i read most of the thread, but are you getting annoyed because he wants to show the property?

As far as i can tell, he told you 7 months before that he was going to sell, you knew when your agreement was coming to an end -he's asked to come around, and you werent there so he rearranged and you 'dont like that date' (because its your birthday)

and now, you are asking for a rent reduction....?

have i missed anything? something?

(i'm neither a renter or a LL)

Want2bSupermum · 09/02/2015 16:40

I would still speak to them about seeing if they know someone. Def speak to the school. You would be shocked at how much teachers know. There might be another parent who is a LL with homes in the area. I was simply shocked that DDs school approached me but it's been great for both sides IMO. No agent fees for either side and I had a school vouch for the parents being good people being forced to move, in one case due to a fire.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 17:05

Once
I'm upset that he said I have no choice but to let people in for viewings even though I have rights by law.

Also in the summer he said he 'might' sell.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 17:07

Also I had already made plans for my birthday!! Which has hasn't been great to be honest after all! It's a milestone bday too (plays small violin)

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 09/02/2015 17:13

Happy birthday FlowersCake

IKnewYou · 09/02/2015 17:27

Maybe I am a pushover but I'd have just let him in. By the time you have contacted Shelter, spent. Time googling, posted on this thread, drafted and written emails and generally agonised over everything they would have been and gone. if the appointment was for 10:00 then I bet they would have been and gone by 10:20 Confused
I understand it may not have been possible with your exsisting birthday plans, but had I been in your position I would have moved them to later in the day if I could and got it over and done with.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 17:31

Maybe I could of offered later but I wouldn't of had time to make the house presentable as they requested.

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DrinkFeckArseGirls · 09/02/2015 17:56

Don't ask for reference! It's not like you'll be getting it on paper or email Confused the next estate agent will call the previous one to check if you paid on time and if you lived there at all. They can only be factual

UmizoomiThis · 09/02/2015 18:40

Dear estate agents
As per our correspondence date/time, I do not grant permission for the landlord, the estate agency or any third party to enter my residence at xyz on date.

I am available on x z and z date. Please do let me know if you would like to arrange access on one of these days or suggest further dates. If I do not receive a reply within the next business day, I will assume you no longer require to access my residence this week and will be contacting me with further dates for next week.

May I suggest Mr x (landlord) also seek independent legal advice (as I have) as he appears to be confused about tenancy law.. I am most concerned as I believe Mr x genuinely doesn't realise his tresspass actions would quickly escalate his misunderstanding into a police matter.

I look forward to your immediate reply regarding rescheduling our appointment.

tellmemore1982 · 09/02/2015 18:43

OP - please can you clarify, did the LL and agent come over today?

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 18:48

Umi all the communication has been through the agent who doesn't know his head from his arse let alone the housing law.
I feel like if I don't do what he wants he will evict me sooner than I can afford to leave.
He has no respect for my tenancy rights.
Just read back through prev emails and he said in the summer ( the agent) if he sells the house in the middle of the fixed term it become void ! I had to get advice then and tell him that was incorrect. He also said the landlord will review again in the new year if he decides to sell.

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amazegumball · 09/02/2015 18:51

No they didn't . But I didn't know till he emailed me a midday.

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