Expelled students being taken by our preferred independent option - cause for concern?

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We are weighing up Oakham versus a grammar school for various reasons but I have read on here and also heard that it does seem to take children expelled for bullying at other schools/‘naughty children’ from other schools. Is that something I should worry about? The grammar won’t do this I suspect because it is massively oversubscribed so places rarely come up (child has a definite place here due to their 11+ score). Also any thoughts about Oakham for a very bright child would be much appreciated thanks. We would like the option of flexi boarding but not full boarding or even weekly at 11 so oundle and uppingham aren’t options. Thanks

Well, what do you value? Pure academics in which case the grammar seems like a no brainer. Oakham would have loads of sporting options and the private school vibe…. Both seem like good options. Ask Oakham what they do with badly behaved children and speak to some current parents, would be my hunch.

Expelled kids still have the right to an education.

I went to a Prep which sent students to Oakham. For me it's quite a rugger mugger school but I am sure intellectual students do well there; it wouldn't be my choice.

I would estimate it is a less popular school and less subscribed than the others in the area. Subsequently it would have spaces at the school that can be filled. There is no academic benchmark there either really. But children who are bullies can be reformed and normally an expulsion will do that; maybe there is a reformist nature to their pastoral approach.

You're a bit stuck with a very bright child. Oundle is the clear choice for you but your boarding requirements preclude it. I don't know the grammar school you're looking at and your desired grades level nor intellectual style/atmosphere but it won't have outside the classroom what Oakham has.

If you can stretch the distance I would check The Leys in Cambridge which has the boarding requirements just as a point of comparison. Good luck.

We used to meet some of the children from Oakham at the local post office and thick as two short planks applied nicely unfortunately, nice kids but very dim

In the state sector often a ‘managed move’ occurs before expulsion so it is not as obvious as in the private sector. Whichever school you choose on occasions there will be children who arrive who have had difficulties at other schools. Often a change of school is what they need and they cause no further problems. The schools policies with how they deal with issues are the important bit.

Grand children ‘s private primary accepted a child who had been expelled from elsewhere for bullying and guess what? She bullied my grand daughter but the school refused to expel her

I don’t know the schools you’re talking about specifically, but if the grammar is state funded, it will have to accept some students under the ‘fair access’ process. If a student is permanently excluded from another school, the LA has a responsibility to educate them. This usually goes to a panel, which decides on the most appropriate school. Full or not, that child could be given a place, or at least put at the top of the waiting list for when a place arises.

Ok. She has the right to an education and money to pay for a private one. I don't see the big deal. You can't just kick kids out of school..

So all children from that school are stupid, are they? Why were you speaking to strange kids to assess their intelligence anyway? They must have been creeped out by you.

I worked there and was trying to assist them with sending letters to their parents written with handwriting that made them look about five years old in an adult body
Mortifying
For them

Actually, they’re not. That’s kind of the point of expelling them so that they consider the implications of losing that right to an education.
Were you expelled by any chance?

Lots of smart people have awful writing. Doctors are notorious for it. Is it a private school you could never afford or something?

No, and no being expelled doesnt mean you lost your right to an education.. in fact, a school that tried to expel you can be told they have to take you back as you have the right to a local education.

If you can accommodate independent school fees comfortably, and are considering Oakham, do so and allow another family to have access to the grammar school place that potentially may be less well off than you.

How is any of this helping OP? Go have a coffee, sort your attitude out and stop derailing OPs thread.

Because the OP being told that schools still have a responsibility to educate expelled students should clear up any of her issues with it. The children still have a right to be educated like the little ones in her family, therefore they will be in the school.

End of matter.

Not alongside OPs special and precious child obvs

Literally, the only benefit of private education is keeping your precious child away from the local oinks.

But that has never been the case. The difference is that the expelled kids in your kid's private school are richer than the ones from your local state schools. Nobody ever promised you that no child who has been expelled will be in the private school you choose. In fact, money talks massively. You can buy your way in with your drug taking, abusive, toxic kid in a way you can't in a local state school.

Paying for privilege and still having to rub up against the chavs. Oh the injustice. My thoughts and prayers are with you at the thought of how traumatic this would be for you and your children.

There can't possibly be any thick kids at a boarding school. Literally impossible. Rich parents = intelligent. Absolute fact.

What - you did an iq test on the kids in the post office queue?

No that's absolutely not the case. But nor are a whole school of privately educated kids going to be thick...

It surely depends on what the kids have been expelled for. Vaping in the loos? That sort of thing wouldn't be an expelling issue in state schools..

My experience is neither at private schools.