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Expelled students being taken by our preferred independent option - cause for concern?

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678socks · 15/10/2025 23:16

We are weighing up Oakham versus a grammar school for various reasons but I have read on here and also heard that it does seem to take children expelled for bullying at other schools/‘naughty children’ from other schools. Is that something I should worry about? The grammar won’t do this I suspect because it is massively oversubscribed so places rarely come up (child has a definite place here due to their 11+ score). Also any thoughts about Oakham for a very bright child would be much appreciated thanks. We would like the option of flexi boarding but not full boarding or even weekly at 11 so oundle and uppingham aren’t options. Thanks

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mummymissessunshine · 20/10/2025 01:00

easternenergizer · 17/10/2025 07:37

I think the point is, not all schools will accept children who have been expelled and less subscribed schools which have more spaces/need to fill will do so.

However. It is not in the interests, of Public School A, for one of their expelled pupils to do really badly. And so they may take B’s drunk, C might take B’s party drug taker and D might take C’s bully.

At least that is what I have seen. I imagine there is even more pastoral care around these kids to keep them on the straight and narrow - at least until GCSEs.

easternenergizer · 20/10/2025 07:40

mummymissessunshine · 20/10/2025 01:00

However. It is not in the interests, of Public School A, for one of their expelled pupils to do really badly. And so they may take B’s drunk, C might take B’s party drug taker and D might take C’s bully.

At least that is what I have seen. I imagine there is even more pastoral care around these kids to keep them on the straight and narrow - at least until GCSEs.

I actually don't think public school A would care? Assuming by public school you mean private school?

mummymissessunshine · 20/10/2025 09:31

easternenergizer · 20/10/2025 07:40

I actually don't think public school A would care? Assuming by public school you mean private school?

Oakham. Oundle. Eton. Rugby. Epsom. Etc. Are known as public schools in the U.K.

easternenergizer · 20/10/2025 10:02

mummymissessunshine · 20/10/2025 09:31

Oakham. Oundle. Eton. Rugby. Epsom. Etc. Are known as public schools in the U.K.

No I know but have seen people use the term to refer to state on here getting confused.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 20/10/2025 10:05

DEAROP · 16/10/2025 07:34

Expelled kids still have the right to an education.

Yeah but not a better education than poor but intelligent and well behaved kids who have no recourse to good schools.

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 20/10/2025 10:16

The school I am at take students expelled from other schools. And they take from ours. It is similar to a managed move situation. It very much depends on why they have been asked to leave. We don’t take on anyone with serious behavioural concerns and the headteachers all know if they tried to pass one off their reputation would suffer and we wouldn’t take from them again.

Mostly, I have to say it works out. The kids are quite shocked at being expelled/asked to leave and it breaks up social groups and fixed patterns of behaviours, providing a fresh start. They come into the school on a final warning and often on the drug testing programme. I don’t know all the students it is a need to know basis (students move mid year for lots of different reasons), but the ones I have worked with have been a sucess.

easternenergizer · 20/10/2025 10:50

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 20/10/2025 10:16

The school I am at take students expelled from other schools. And they take from ours. It is similar to a managed move situation. It very much depends on why they have been asked to leave. We don’t take on anyone with serious behavioural concerns and the headteachers all know if they tried to pass one off their reputation would suffer and we wouldn’t take from them again.

Mostly, I have to say it works out. The kids are quite shocked at being expelled/asked to leave and it breaks up social groups and fixed patterns of behaviours, providing a fresh start. They come into the school on a final warning and often on the drug testing programme. I don’t know all the students it is a need to know basis (students move mid year for lots of different reasons), but the ones I have worked with have been a sucess.

That sounds like happy outcomes and what great pastoral care should be. No one should have their lives defined by a moment or period of trouble during their teen years.

I have also seen cases of straight A students, no misdemeanours whatsoever at school lose it in their 20s

DEAROP · 20/10/2025 10:59

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 20/10/2025 10:05

Yeah but not a better education than poor but intelligent and well behaved kids who have no recourse to good schools.

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The private system is a different debate.

User2346 · 20/10/2025 11:13

HRchatter · 16/10/2025 07:37

We used to meet some of the children from Oakham at the local post office and thick as two short planks applied nicely unfortunately, nice kids but very dim

My DH has a PHD in Theoretical Physics from Cambridge but atrocious handwriting. My DS is dyslexic and has awful handwriting too. What an ignorant post and dare I say it a chip on your shoulder?

KatSmyth · 24/03/2026 22:37

easternenergizer · 16/10/2025 07:35

I went to a Prep which sent students to Oakham. For me it's quite a rugger mugger school but I am sure intellectual students do well there; it wouldn't be my choice.

I would estimate it is a less popular school and less subscribed than the others in the area. Subsequently it would have spaces at the school that can be filled. There is no academic benchmark there either really. But children who are bullies can be reformed and normally an expulsion will do that; maybe there is a reformist nature to their pastoral approach.

You're a bit stuck with a very bright child. Oundle is the clear choice for you but your boarding requirements preclude it. I don't know the grammar school you're looking at and your desired grades level nor intellectual style/atmosphere but it won't have outside the classroom what Oakham has.

If you can stretch the distance I would check The Leys in Cambridge which has the boarding requirements just as a point of comparison. Good luck.

Sadly you are always going to get answers from parents of rival schools on here 🤣

Oakham is not as academic as Loughborough or Leicester Grammar schools - but it has so much more to offer. It’s well-rounded, unpretentious and family oriented. Never noticed any bullies or badly behaved children. With these schools, you have to go with your gut. Can you see your child there?

KatSmyth · 24/03/2026 22:39

HRchatter · 16/10/2025 07:37

We used to meet some of the children from Oakham at the local post office and thick as two short planks applied nicely unfortunately, nice kids but very dim

Was it Uppingham Post Office? 🤣🤣🤣 give it a rest

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