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INFANT CLASS SIZE PREJUDICE- YOU CAN WIN!

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custardpants · 22/06/2009 14:02

I have just won an appeal and overcome the class size prejudice rule, based on inaccuracies on behalf of the council. i suggest to anyone out there, keep fighting you can win and get in contact with your local MP who can also work with you and give you information on how to approach these things. County Councils will tell you there is no point appealing and will say no appeals get upheld on the infant class size prejudice rule. please keep hope, if you have the right information and tackle in the right way you CAN win. I WANTED TO MAKE OTHER PARENTS AWARE THAT IT IS NOT A POINTLESS BATTLE- YOU CAN BEAT THE ADMISSIONS AUTHORITY AS QUITE OFTEN THEY DO NOT IMPLEMENT THE ADMISSION ARRANGEMENTS CORRECTLY, PARENTS ARE NOT GIVEN THIS INFORMATION SO PLEASE REQUEST FROM YOUR LOCAL MP WHO CAN HELP YOU!

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Retropear · 12/07/2014 16:31

Well done op.

Yes small classes are desirable but not the be all and end all. I'd rather have my dc in larger classes with better teachers in a well run school than in smaller classes with a mediocre teacher and poor school.Posters are sadly mistaken if they think teaching quality comes second to class size.Sure I read some research that says teacher quality trumps all.

I've taught all sizes of class and between 28 and 35 I'm not sure there is much in it,certainly not enough to put up with a poor school.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme · 12/07/2014 16:35

My reception age dd is having to have her class split up because so many people decided they were entitled to send their children to an out of catchment school. So many got in on appeal and made her class so big that when they go up to year one there will be too many of them in the year one / year two mixed class and their year group will have to be split.

I and several other aggrieved parents have been having meetings with the head this week. I actually started another thread about it. A small group of the children are going to have to be split from the rest of their peers and work in the foundation classroom because of the 30 children limit and also because the year one and two classroom physically cannot take them. We are extremely concerned, as you can imagine, that keeping them back in foundation whilst expecting them to adhere to the national curriculum whilst younger children all around them are playing is going to adversely affect their progress.

But you go on ahead Op, you shove your child in that overcrowded classroom and fuck anyone else, right?

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme · 12/07/2014 16:37

I'd rather have my dc in larger classes with better teachers in a well run school than in smaller classes with a mediocre teacher and poor school.

Well yes, that's always how it works. I'd quite like the small classes with the excellent teachers that we did have before entitled parents started appealing the perfectly sensible decisions to keep our village school a manageable size.

Retropear · 12/07/2014 16:41

Soooo because you can afford to buy nearer to said school you somehow have a bigger entitlement?

Sorry we all pay for our dc's schools and are all entitled to the same quality.The I'm alright Jack attitude of some stinks.

Small village schools are often not a good use of money hence numbers dwindling.I'm sure if your school was threatened with closure you'd welcome outsiders with open arms.Hmm

prh47bridge · 12/07/2014 17:58

But you go on ahead Op, you shove your child in that overcrowded classroom and fuck anyone else, right

This thread is 5 years old. I doubt the OP is listening. As with any infant class size appeal, the OP won because the LA got it wrong and her child should have got a place at the appeal school. That is presumably why appeals were successful at your school. So what do you want? Should parents who are wrongly deprived of a place at the school of their choice be denied any redress? Or should other children be thrown out to make way for successful appeals?

Of course, the appeal panel should have limited the number of successful appeals if it would have resulted in more pupils than the school can handle. If that didn't happen you should blame the admission authority for not explaining the position to the appeal panel properly. But if the appeal panel thought the school could cope then the school simply has to cope. And it is not impossible that the head indicated to the appeal panel that they could cope with the additional children.

admission · 12/07/2014 21:00

There is also the simple fact that schools and especially head teachers sometimes do not know the admission arrangements well enough and say things that are simply not correct.
If the pupils got a place at your school as a result of successful appeals then they are possibly exempted pupils and this story about having to split the class is all around what the school wants to do, not what the legal requirements are. Without knowing all the details it is impossible to know what the real truth of the situation is

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