Sex and Relationship education for 5-10 year olds.

[webquack]

Hi everyone. I'm looking for mums who are as angry as I am about the current government proposals to introduce compulsory sex and relationship education (SRE)for 5-10 year olds. I am also unashamedly asking for more signatures on the No. 10 website which is asking Gordon Brown to conduct a 12 week public consultation on these proposals so that parents and others can have their say. Britain has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe, and this inspite of decades of sex education in secondary schools. SRE hasn't worked. So what does the government do? They introduce the more SRE! Do you want your five-year-old to be naming body parts, being informed about intimacy and what is and isn't appropriate touching? Do you want your child sexualised at an early age and to lose their innocence any earlier than necessary? If not please join the growing chorus of concerned parents by going to: petitions.number10.gov.uk/Parentchoice

I doult that webquack has seen a modern SRE lesson. Infact I have been helping out with a year 11 class who are having a course on sex and relationships.

They have been asking me about my bump. They been wearing pregnancy simulation outfits
(including boys) and later on in the year they will take home dolls that simulate what its like to have a baby.

As a parent I would find it hard to give my son experiences like that. Its where schools are great.

Have to say having just read the thread - to me it speaks volumes that in 127 possts there is not one in support of the OP yet she still argues that we are the "deluded" majority purely on the basis that we do not agree with her bigoted and really quite unpleasant views.

FWIW I will be supporting all SRE my daughters recieve in the home and hope what they do in school gives us the oportunity to talk more on these issues not less.

The presumption that it should still be swept under the carpet in a victorian manner is farcical in this day and age.

Oh and Webquack there are many parents in the world at large, who will (for what ever reason religion/ embarassment / their own lack of knowledge) not discuss these issues with their children what do you propose for those that are uniformed???

as a parent of 18 & 19 year old girls and a 16 year old son, that are most definitely virgins but have all had serious relationship...I would like to think my method (discussing everything and anything) has worked so op can put that in her pipe and smoke it

Her views on homosexuality are however, disgusting and scary

all of the children we have fostered have stopped any sexual activity within a few months of being with us.

It's not cos we're loons or locked them up or told them God would smite them - instead it was because we taught them respect for their bodies, taught them self-respect, boosted their self-esteem, informed them about everything and modelled a healthy relationship (me and dh)

i'm so pleased at this thread, at the majority opinion on it. it is very healthy imo that so many mners are pro this policy. it is the right one imo.

Brook Advisory, good that you have joined the fray. It is groups such as yours that are pulling the nation down. Please refer to the parliamentary debate held on this subject by Philip Davies MP on 26 Nov. 2008 where he persuasively argued against sex education entire. Brook Advisory and the like are part of the sinister agenda to undermine childhood in the UK. It may not be your conscious objective but it is going to happen by default. I guarantee that if the gov. goes ahead with its plans there will be a catastrophic fall-out of teenage sexual activity one decade from now. You will not get this one without a fight. I am also sure home schooling will be on the rise as a result of these plans.

You never explained to us in exactly what way the government has misrepresented the statistics that seem to show that teenage pregnancy rates are going down proportionately.

In the case of exam results the statistics have undergone a change because government has modified not the behaviour of students (as would be desired). In other words, things that should be failures are reported as passes.

But surely you are not suggesting that the decline in the number of teenage pregnancies could be because the government leans on doctors not to register births to teenage mothers??? And what do they with those unregistered babies afterwards?

Scaredof love, good. I also agree that parents should discuss anything and everything with their children, ad tha is what we as parents intend to do. That is the point I am making, that it is the parents' responsibility to provide SRE. I think I have said this clearly in a previous post, which you may not have read. Schools should have no part in it. Responsibility should be placed firmly back in the hands of parents - or are we deemed incompetent by the New Labour stooges?

should read "have modified not the behaviour of students but that of examiners"

But why is sex education different from other education, webquack? Why is it wrong of us to let teachers give lessons on modern history but not on human biology?

Why is it the parents' responsibility to teach the position of the clitoris and not the way to work out percentages? Or are you saying everybody is under a duty to home educate their children?

parents like you should not be entrusted to educate children in this subject, children and young people need open and honest advice, not deluded paranoia

ROFL at 'pulling the nation down'

No ones childhood is undermined - in fact I have never seen anything but improvement with proper information and modelling.

Thankfully you are in the tiniest minority of loons. And you will get precisely NOWHERE.

Hilarious that you bizarrely think because not one person agrees with you that there is something wrong with us.

At some point you have to realise that when the majority disagrees with you that it's possible there's something wrong with your point of view.

In a nutshell you think there is something 'different' about sexual health/relationships, you presume that there is a moral question associated with teaching these subjects.

And you don't have the same feelings about History and Geography.

It's your issue, you have issues with the teaching of sex and relationships.

Lauriefairycake if the majority is always right then why were 6 million Jews gassed during the war? Who was deluded then I wonder?

Yes, bingo, there is a moral element to sex and relationship education. Although you may not agree.

You are comparing people on here to Nazi's

You are mad as a chicken

People on here are ordinary parents/carers not Nazi's.

What you have just said is offensive in the extreme and I am reporting your post.

Webquack, I am still trying to get two question answered:

why should we let teachers teach other important subjects to our children but not human biology- what is so special about this subject?

how do you suppose the government have doctored the statistics on teenage pregnancies?

Dear Lady, please report it - in fact while you are at it, call the police - lol.

Clearly you don't understand mumsnet - people report offensive posts.

It's not like the police.

You have just crossed the line from deluded to offensive.

Yes, but meanwhile, could you just answer my two questions please?

god don't rise to it and report it. let it stand so everyone can see how reasoned and reasonable webquack is.

jeez! only read the OP' first few posts and im already outraged from sussex!

you do realise that if you took your head out of your arse you'd be able to see a lot clearer?

There is something strange about webquack's posts. I don't mean that she is a troll, whatever that means, but I feel like I'm listening to a man's arguments. (A man that doesn't get out much I'd like to add )