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head teacher sacked my child..need advice possibly legal advice

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errdunno · 12/11/2008 00:06

I had a meeting with the head of my childs school to talk about the next year teacher.
I asked lots of questions about that new teacher and the head didnt want to answer any of those questions and had no qualms saying so.
I told her why we were so concerned, why we were to accept,again,for the third year in a row,an NQT,very young,and who had previously applied for a full time position at the school and had been turned down but we were being asked to accept her as a temporary teacher.

That meeting fell apart and we pretty much hated each other!
But all that is by the by because the next day..the last day of term..the head walked in to my childs class and inexplicably asked him to stand up and then announced to his schoolmates that he was leaving the school and could everyone wish him goodbye.?

He is/was stunned and in tears for weeks,and refused to go back to the same school..I coulnt talk to the school or govenors about it-they were on holiday!
so I moved him to a private school that we are vvv happy with.
I have since complained to the school Lea and the govenors but there has been total silence from all of them.
Thing is.I feel this woman is clearly out of control and needs to explain what she did.
I feel so bad for my other half who now has to pay for a private school as there was no room at any other school locally.
Could I sue the school? it is afer all constructive dissmissal?
What do you think?

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clam · 12/11/2008 20:30

Look, a head teacher CANNOT DO THIS. Even if she is a nightmare madwoman, who all the staff and parents hate, she cannot exclude (the term 'sack' does not apply to school children) a child without due process and believe me, it is a long and tortuous procedure, with a whole array of steps and different professionals involved, and your son would have had to have been temporarily excluded a number of times previously for specific breaches of the school behaviour policy.
So, therefore, IF she came into your son's classroom and said what she said, then there must have been something to warrant it; namely that you had given her cause to believe that you were withdrawing him. Otherwise, it COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. NO WAY.

Mumi · 12/11/2008 20:36

"compensation
(love that one-did I mention compensation?no I didnt,just an apology)"

Your OP does say

"Could I sue the school?"

If, IF this is true, I think it was only due to the head misunderstanding you, because you obviously have a lot of trouble getting your story straight saying what you mean

errdunno · 12/11/2008 20:36

so sad that you posted that "nametaken"
I dont think Im ill..do you mean mentally?
I cant help who Iam..nor do I want to
Taking the bit between the teeth is what pretty much most of us has had to do, at some point in our lives, to varying degrees ..
Im a bit sad that I havent been articulate enough to describe this incident and the effect it has had on me,but I have sort of managed to put "a spin" on it for my boy and the only remaining sadness for him has been in not seeing his friends.he is however making new ones,for which Iam etenally gratefull....
We can cope with the outlay,its just that I prefered not to talk about that here.
I come from an Immigrant background,gratefull to this country big time and a private education kinda went against the grain.
Have since changed my mind!

In addition ( and can you not all hear youselfs)
you are all urging me to accept/ agree ... that a head teacher, who is paid for with our tax money and a person who we trust our lovely children with wont apologise for a wrongdoing/and be culpable, and be made to answer/apologise for this in case this admits a liability that I havnt asked for??
Whos ill?

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errdunno · 12/11/2008 20:44

Mumi
sue the school dosnt mean for money ..its a term...
I know all about compensation culture...GEEEERROFF!!!
never mentioned the feckin money ever at all!!!just the regret at my DP (who can afford it by the way) having to pay it.
I JUST WANT AN APOLOGY FOR MY BOY IS THAT CLEAR_ CAN THAT BE OFFICIAL HERE?

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wannaBe · 12/11/2008 20:46

fgs she did not "sack" your child.

You chose to take your child out of the school. Now for whatever reason she went into the class and announced that the child was leaving and a big fuss was made which the child in question duely accepted.

But the only reason she has "got away" with anything is because, based on her telling people your child was leaving, you chose to remove him from the school.

you are responsible for your child leaving the school. Any other parent would have questioned it on the day the child had come home (and I simply do not believe that the head left the school at the same time the children did). But you chose to take your child out of school - had you taken him back the next term he would still be there.

So all the head potentially has to apologise for is a misunderstanding on her part.

She has not sacked anyone, she has not asalted anyone.

hippipotami · 12/11/2008 20:49

She did not 'sack' your child.

She made him stand up and say his goodbyes - apparently.
Have you had that confirmed by friend's children, your ds's classmates, the class teacher?

I cannot believe you then did not return your child back to school in teh Sept.

She may or may not have said something to your ds. But you took him out without there being any formal de-registration.

I just cannot comprehend this. Sorry.

wannaBe · 12/11/2008 20:52

"never mentioned the feckin money" where did you emigrate from, as matter of interest? As feckin is very much a term from certain parts of Britain.

sparklestickchick · 12/11/2008 20:57

I dont blme the op one bit i think shes trying to stand up for what she believes is right and would ny of us mums not do that?

the trouble is unless youve experienced this blatant unprofessionalism you really cannot conceive that a head teacher could act in this way - they can and they do!!

I dont think you should just let her get way with it but i also know from experience that its all coming at a cost to your wellbeing and therefore i say move on.

LIZS · 12/11/2008 20:59

Bizarre thread. I hope your correspondence with LEA, Head and governors was rather more specific, logical and in less emotive language, otherwise I can sort of see why you may not have received a straightforward response. Surely the thing to do would have been to speak directly to your priest , who would have been around in the holidays, and get him onside to resolve it before September. Can't help thinking there is more to the issue than you have been able to explain.

errdunno · 12/11/2008 21:00

Wannabe..and how right...you have been nothing if not downright to me
prefer if you went off to talk about something or someone else
think there is a head teachers apreciation thread somewhere in other parts of Britain...wanna I look for you?

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hippipotami · 12/11/2008 21:02

Dunno - why did you not take your ds back to the school on teh first day of term in September?

nametaken · 12/11/2008 21:04

There is only one country in the whole world someone who says "fecking" and sends her kids to catholic school could come from hang on a minute, your Mrs Doyle aren't you?

nametaken · 12/11/2008 21:12

Oh, and your not articulate either. In fact, you're one of the most articulate people ever to post on MN. Your english is near perfect, but your posts are rambling and nonsensical and yes, I do mean mentally ill. Go and see a doctor.

nametaken · 12/11/2008 21:14

meant to say

Oh, and your not inarticulate

wannaBe · 12/11/2008 21:16

"wanna I look for you?" amazing, english is near perfect until someone questions what country she's from... .

Must be switzerland - isn't that where the goatherds yodle to the goats? as they trip trap over their bridges in the hills .

clam · 12/11/2008 21:19

I really hope that this is not going to become a race/culture issue - either from the OP or from posters.
I don't give a stuff where she comes from - her posts do not add up.

dustystar · 12/11/2008 21:20

Or maybe vietnam wannabe. They trot all around the glode dontcha know

nametaken · 12/11/2008 21:21

Ahh sure my money's on the emerald isle, take a look at the profile, quick before she removes it.

wannaBe · 12/11/2008 21:23

dusty.

do you think?

nametaken · 12/11/2008 21:23

Maybe a leaprechaun - did I spell that right errdunno - perhaps you can enlighten us.

wannaBe · 12/11/2008 21:26

well if she likes kerry katona then it's official - she's a loon.

nametaken · 12/11/2008 21:36

Maybe she's busy with her Roddy Doyle FAMOUS IRISH AUTHOR FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW books an films. Ahh sure she fecking is.

2shoes · 12/11/2008 21:39

dustystar I reckon its her sister

Blandmum · 12/11/2008 21:49

Excluding kids in the UK takes a lot of time, effort and paper work. Heads simply can't do this sort of thing.

Plus schools have financial penalties if they exclude, so it is the last straw.

This simply doesn't read true at all...unless there is a lot of missing information

EachPeachPearMum · 12/11/2008 21:50

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