head teacher sacked my child..need advice possibly legal advice

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I had a meeting with the head of my childs school to talk about the next year teacher.
I asked lots of questions about that new teacher and the head didnt want to answer any of those questions and had no qualms saying so.
I told her why we were so concerned, why we were to accept,again,for the third year in a row,an NQT,very young,and who had previously applied for a full time position at the school and had been turned down but we were being asked to accept her as a temporary teacher.

That meeting fell apart and we pretty much hated each other!
But all that is by the by because the next day..the last day of term..the head walked in to my childs class and inexplicably asked him to stand up and then announced to his schoolmates that he was leaving the school and could everyone wish him goodbye.?

He is/was stunned and in tears for weeks,and refused to go back to the same school..I coulnt talk to the school or govenors about it-they were on holiday!
so I moved him to a private school that we are vvv happy with.
I have since complained to the school Lea and the govenors but there has been total silence from all of them.
Thing is.I feel this woman is clearly out of control and needs to explain what she did.
I feel so bad for my other half who now has to pay for a private school as there was no room at any other school locally.
Could I sue the school? it is afer all constructive dissmissal?
What do you think?

agree with wannabe's last post and i reiterate, you went along with what happened, you took him away and took him to a new school.. you should have taken him back and pursued this, you are also culpable if your son is distraught and unsettled..

they made him cakes in school that day?

just put it behind you op and endeavour to make your son's education a happy place.

i can't udnerstand why you were so miffed at the teacher that they suggested for a start.
cool down.

wannabe's last sentence puts what i wanted to know more succinctly

don't think we are being given the whole story

I think that for the majority of us (thank heavens) we find this post unbelievable because head teachers we meet are all v professional and caring DONT for a minute assume all schools are like this they are not !!!

I have had dreadful experiences with 2 schools (both of which i have worked at/been offered work as a nneb)if you get a good teacher be grateful theres plenty of bad ones out there too.

would you expect a head teacher to say your son was scratched by a finger nail on the face then later hear from the boys mum herself that her son had stabbed your ds with a sharp pencil in the face?

would a good headteacher leave school due to stress when you report a member of her staff for bullying a pupil and later tell you she knew it was going to cause mayhem?

would a teacher of 6' grab your 7 year olds polo shirt so hard the collr rips ...because the jugsaw lid was lost?

would a dinner lady laugh at a child and say 'go on tell your mum,i dont care?'

would a teacher bully an 8 year old and reduce him to tears every day for 12 weeks?and the dr sign your child off school and have hospital teacher service come to your home?

if you went for parent governor and you lost to your headteachers 'friend' would you think ahh well or would you believe the caretaker when he tells you a sackfull of votes to your name was left behind for him to shred?? and were never included in the count?

believe me this happened and so can errdunno story!!!

believable or not, she needs to think of her son's happiness now, not the revenge she wants to take on the head.

i quite agree and thats what we did its bloody hard tho and you feel like your letting your dc down,

but sparkle, if the head had wanted this child excluded then if she was as bad as some are she could have engineered it. Merely saying that the child would be leaving that day is just too big a risk, because most parents would just have said that no the child was not leaving and she would have been made to look stupid.

I don't understand why any parent would take their 9 year old's word when he came home and said that the ht had announced to the class that he was leaving and then take the child and put him in a different school. It makes no sense what so ever.

Right I have just phoned the lea again and been told that the school are sending me a letter apologising for their slow response to my complaint... app they say they thought they had to wait for a full govenors meeting to discuss the complaint and they havnt had one yet.meeting that is!

They said they will include a form that I have to fill in to ask for a meeting with ourselves and the head and up to 3 govenors and this will start the formal process of trying to uncover what and why this happened. It would seem also that the school is prepared to "waive" the 3 month time limit to this complaint as they accept thie delay is entirely their fault.

Im not a troll (?)
I have not embellished this story
Warwickshire is my local LEA
My boy has nothing to be ashamed about but in his 9 year old way,wannabe,he perceives this in a differnt way than we do...
She DID walk in and do that to him,I do have the autograph book still
and there are literally LOADS of witnesses
we did not talk about or indeed threaten to leave the school..I did not demand anything,I was not there to demand anything,there was nothing I could demand!
She was bang out of order and accountable for it.

I have had bad experiences of a headteacher to the point where I no longer feel able to say 'a HT couldn't do this because it would be illegal'. People do break the law, people from all spheres of life, and people do behave unprofessionally. I still find it a little difficult to quite understand what went on here.

will he go back to that school?

lucykate
Meeting fell apart cos she asked me not to tell the other parents the releif teacher hadnt been good enough to give the full time post to but was good enough to hire as cover
she remembered halfway through the convo that she had just violated confidential rules about staff
I declined to keep that a secret and told her I was shocked that she had asked...
I know I keep saying this but this did happen as described

when you say "That meeting fell apart and we pretty much hated each other!"

can you elaborate?

No he will not be going back to that school nor can I reccomend it to anyone under its present headship,shes out of control and running it badly...loads of the old staff have left...and from the same year group when they went back in Sept 7 children had "found other schools" for differing reasons with a common thread if you know what I mean...

Does anyone have any experience of a meeting with a HT and govenors about a complaint that they could offer advice about?

"No he will not be going back to that school nor can I reccomend it to anyone under its present headship,shes out of control and running it badly...loads of the old staff have left...and from the same year group when they went back in Sept 7 children had "found other schools" for differing reasons with a common thread if you know what I mean.."

if this truly is the case, then your ds is better off out of it.

is he happy in his new school, and being private/fee paying, can you afford it? if yes to both, then i'm not sure what point there is in pursuing anything with his old school

You will need to lay out the facts, and the basis of your complaint in a clear manner, preferably with a timeline so that the governors can make sense of the events as you see them.
As a former governor, I'm afraid it is entirely normal for them to have not yet met to discuss this until now- they are a voluntary body, it is frequently difficult for them to meet I'm sure.

I don't get why you made such a fuss about the relief teacher. Just because someone is unsuccessful in a job application doesn't me they are not suitable for the job, just that others may have been slightly more suitable.

I have to say i find your story a little hard to believe too and i'm not sure you've told us everything but having experienced a truly awful HT myself I accept that sometimes some can do or say the most shocking things.

What do you want to acheive with this complaint? I doubt very much you will get an apology from the HT. I complained about the HT at ds first school due to her treatment of him (long story). I had already moved him from the school and it was about 6 months after that I complained. It took me that much time to feel strong enough to do it and for me i felt i had no choice as i wanted to make sure no other children with ds needs were treated as poorly. I sent a letter detailing my complaint to the Governors and copied it to the head of the LEA, the Diocese and also my MP. It was investigated and i was satisfied with the outcome but at no time was an apology forthcoming and tbh i didn't expect it to. It would have been nice but it would also mean they were admitting they had done something wrong and they were never going to do that. It worked though becuase things definitely improved at the school after my complaint.

I think that there is a strong possibility that she is going to say that you told her that you were taking your son out of her school. Because that is the only likely possibility. Now you either did do that, and your subsequent behaviour would back this up, or she is a loon.
The problem here is that no one believes you because of your actions after the fact. If she did this and was totally off her own bat it is unlikely that any parent wouldn't have gone and sorted this out there and then.

Garbage.

Parp.

the story may be indeed hard to believe but sadly in life things often are.
I cant fathom that in life if you make or say something thats clearly not true,as in this instance that you shouldnt apologise!
I app that she probebly wont apologise as that could possibly then lead on to something else. but i do think that she should be dissaplined about this incident,she absoulutly cant deny that this indeed happened.
I just dont see why its so unreasonable to ask for and get a simple sorry.

Christywhisty
as said I wasnt kicking up a fuss about the teacher I was there to ask her if the rumour was true she then tried to "gagg" me when she realised she had broken some rule.

I couldnt sort it out there and then
I got in late and the next day was the last day and the day after that she went on holiday for 4 weeks!!ARGH

interested tho about my "subsquent behaviour" what do you mean carmenere? because we changed schools? or complained?

why is it so unreasonable to ask for a simple sorry

ED, I have witnessed more than one "mad" head through my job, and can see that it could happen.

Good luck with your meeting. It is notoriously difficult to deal with Heads/Leas, etc. They stick together when times get rough.

im really intregued as to why no-one thinks I will get this apology.

I suppose she could lie at this meeting and say I told her I was taking my boy out,but if thats the case wouldnt she have asked for that off me in writing?is there not a official process that the school does when a person resigns their child or is it just verbal?

I had to sign something