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Disheartening parents evening

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SillyBear1 · 14/10/2024 20:11

Hi,

We’ve just had our first parents evening of Reception and I’m feeling a bit disheartened by it (although obviously keeping this to myself and not telling DS!)

DS is 4, will be 5 early next year. He’s attended nursery and their attached pre-school since around 10 months old. He’s never had any concerns raised from them or health visitors - our last parents evening from pre-school lasted all of a couple of minutes where she just told us he was great and a HV’s feedback was that she hadn’t heard a child speak as well as he can, for years.

He’s a wonderful boy and I tell him everyday how proud I am of him and that all I want is for him to try his best but I felt something wasn’t communicating from home/school.
School graded him as being in the ‘birth to 3’ category for pretty much everything and there was lots said that he couldn’t do that he can and has been able to do for a very long time (recognising his name as a basic example).

They said he can’t blend his phonics (although does recognise them) but he reads these no issue at home. They’ve put him into a very small ‘support’ group for phonics now and he’ll be getting books with no words in. I don’t want to overface him and put him off so I appreciate this but a small part of me feels disappointed.

They also said his fine motor skills are poor and he cannot grasp scissors or hold a pencil so they’ve moved him down a step but didn’t seem to say what this would entail. He’s shown no preference for a dominant hand in writing and his pictures are all just scribble still with no clear shapes. They said we should use play dough or colanders at home.
He’s never shown an interest in drawing at home even though we’ve offered it alongside crafts. We’ve printed out pictures of different characters he might like and given him these to colour which keeps his attention a bit more.

He’s formed a close friendship with another boy but he’s quiet and the pair of them would stay in one area of the classroom all day if they could. He’s coming across as quite shy and I don’t know if that’s why what he can do isn’t coming across at school.

There were 2 big learning diary books showing off what the class had been doing and it was full of answers/comments from the same children and DS barely featured.

He’s such an imaginative and funny little boy who never stops talking at home. He questions everything and has so much knowledge about the world (his memory is also incredible). He loves reading and we’ve read to him every night since before he was born.

I have noticed however that when we’re present, he refuses to speak to whoever else is around - tonight for example, he refused to speak to the teacher and just sat hiding himself on us. He would also do this at pre-school, refuse to speak to the staff at drop off/pick up when we were there.
He also doesn’t seem to enjoy group activities but will play lovely on smaller terms e.g. we took him to a football club last year but he refused to get involved at all and just jumped around in front of me making loud noises, telling the adults ‘no’ if they tried to encourage him.

I’ve fell down an overthinking hole - not because I want to be a pushy parent or pressure him (!) - just through wanting to support him and I know it’s only early and they develop at different times.
I’m questioning whether it’s very simply that he’s only 4, it’s new and he’s a bit shy, but then I have other silly thoughts wondering if pre-school have missed something or I’ve not been good enough in some way.

Is there anything else I can be doing to help him? I just want him to be happy at school but making sure if he needs any help, we’re there for him.

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LetItBow · 17/10/2024 19:10

One question @SillyBear1 - does your ds have lots of screen time? This can impede on developing fine motor skills.

MsNeis · 17/10/2024 19:33

SarahAndQuack · 14/10/2024 20:54

He sounds like a lovely child and totally normal. I think you just have to smile and nod. It's totally meaningless.

This, absolutely. Smile and nod all the way 👍

immigrant002 · 17/10/2024 19:47

SillyBear1 · 14/10/2024 20:11

Hi,

We’ve just had our first parents evening of Reception and I’m feeling a bit disheartened by it (although obviously keeping this to myself and not telling DS!)

DS is 4, will be 5 early next year. He’s attended nursery and their attached pre-school since around 10 months old. He’s never had any concerns raised from them or health visitors - our last parents evening from pre-school lasted all of a couple of minutes where she just told us he was great and a HV’s feedback was that she hadn’t heard a child speak as well as he can, for years.

He’s a wonderful boy and I tell him everyday how proud I am of him and that all I want is for him to try his best but I felt something wasn’t communicating from home/school.
School graded him as being in the ‘birth to 3’ category for pretty much everything and there was lots said that he couldn’t do that he can and has been able to do for a very long time (recognising his name as a basic example).

They said he can’t blend his phonics (although does recognise them) but he reads these no issue at home. They’ve put him into a very small ‘support’ group for phonics now and he’ll be getting books with no words in. I don’t want to overface him and put him off so I appreciate this but a small part of me feels disappointed.

They also said his fine motor skills are poor and he cannot grasp scissors or hold a pencil so they’ve moved him down a step but didn’t seem to say what this would entail. He’s shown no preference for a dominant hand in writing and his pictures are all just scribble still with no clear shapes. They said we should use play dough or colanders at home.
He’s never shown an interest in drawing at home even though we’ve offered it alongside crafts. We’ve printed out pictures of different characters he might like and given him these to colour which keeps his attention a bit more.

He’s formed a close friendship with another boy but he’s quiet and the pair of them would stay in one area of the classroom all day if they could. He’s coming across as quite shy and I don’t know if that’s why what he can do isn’t coming across at school.

There were 2 big learning diary books showing off what the class had been doing and it was full of answers/comments from the same children and DS barely featured.

He’s such an imaginative and funny little boy who never stops talking at home. He questions everything and has so much knowledge about the world (his memory is also incredible). He loves reading and we’ve read to him every night since before he was born.

I have noticed however that when we’re present, he refuses to speak to whoever else is around - tonight for example, he refused to speak to the teacher and just sat hiding himself on us. He would also do this at pre-school, refuse to speak to the staff at drop off/pick up when we were there.
He also doesn’t seem to enjoy group activities but will play lovely on smaller terms e.g. we took him to a football club last year but he refused to get involved at all and just jumped around in front of me making loud noises, telling the adults ‘no’ if they tried to encourage him.

I’ve fell down an overthinking hole - not because I want to be a pushy parent or pressure him (!) - just through wanting to support him and I know it’s only early and they develop at different times.
I’m questioning whether it’s very simply that he’s only 4, it’s new and he’s a bit shy, but then I have other silly thoughts wondering if pre-school have missed something or I’ve not been good enough in some way.

Is there anything else I can be doing to help him? I just want him to be happy at school but making sure if he needs any help, we’re there for him.

I am suprised they expect so much from
Him at this stage . He is only 4 !
My daughter is at reception too even though she reads some books ( sngbirds) but at school they still give just books with no words is only autumn term .
I wouldnt worry he will pick it up . As for being shy whats wrong with that ? As long as he plays well with one or two children and he is happy . Not everyone is an extrovent and not everyone is into football
My son was also like that hated football only has 2 friends now and they always play together
He loves cricket and swimming

TizerorFizz · 17/10/2024 20:19

@immigrant002 If a school does not assess what a child can do (and mine were assessed 25 years ago) how do you know what interventions are needed? How do you talk to parents about helping their dc? It might seem early but there are early learning goals and I think @SillyBear1 you should have a look at these. It clarifies what the teacher is looking for.

SillyBear1 · 18/10/2024 14:09

Thanks again everyone. I agree it’s always better to know so you can support and work on things, it was just a bit sad when you weren’t aware of these things before and it felt so soon! He’s my first so I will get tougher I’m sure.
All we ever had from nursery were little meetings for ‘parents evening’ where they’d bring out their target sheets for their age and discuss briefly where they were against that. I don’t know if anyone has anything different at their settings?

No, he doesn’t have a lot of screen time. I would never judge anyone for it as it has a time and a place, but it was never something I wanted for him, much prefer to be outdoors or playing.

I had a chat with him recently and he told me he wanted to stay at home with me as doing learning things with me was more fun than school. We talked about how the grown ups at school will keep him safe and look after him too. I do think he’s just shy but he’s got a small group of boys who he’s forming lovely friendships with and that’s great for him. He had that in nursery too.

We’ve been having some 121 time on an afternoon and he’s showing me he can do everything that was documented he couldn’t. I’ve made it a bit of fun and actually realised how much I’ve missed having time with just him (DD is equally as obsessed with me so it’s rare we get time together nowadays).

They send home phonics sheets so he goes through those sounding out the 3/4 letters with the phonics sound and then tells me what they make as a word.
He’s been cutting play dough with scissors and can keep hold of them/open and close them. He does need reminding to use ‘pinchy pen’ as I call it as he would use the easier option of a fist but, when he does, he can trace letters lovely. I’ve downloaded a CBeebies learners app on my phone too, as that has a trace letters with your finger game and ordered him a couple of fine motor type games online (a sorting dinosaurs by colour one with tweezers as an example).

We’ve got a mini whiteboard so last night I suggested he draw me a person so just gave prompts such as, ‘shall we start with a circle for his face?’ and he was able to do that. I’d then prompt and ask if he wanted to add eyes/nose/arms etc and he was able to do all of that himself. He then traced a few letters I ‘dashed’ for him and out of nowhere told me he wanted to do one himself and surprised me with a freehand ‘f’ which was nigh on perfect (not biased here haha, it really was).

He can be easily distracted so I feel the poster who mentioned how school is full of distractions! I think it could be a mixture of shyness and the distraction. He’s such a character and outgoing when he’s comfortable but in unknown situations he can go quiet and refuse to speak.

I messaged his teacher thanking her for her time and that I would happily work with her on anything identified. She replied that she’d love to see things he’s doing at home so I’ve been sending her updates over now and again.

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