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Toilet issues

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tiredmumma90 · 07/02/2024 21:23

So, I've been stewing over this since yesterday and the more I think about it the more it's really annoying me...

I have a DD (3 years old) in Nursery and another daughter in year 2. Nursery finishes earlier than the other years in school so by the time I've collected my younger DD and gone down to collect my other DD my younger 1 needs the toilet and always goes into year 2 to use their toilets. The teachers now have decided they are going to stop her from using them. Yesterday she needed to go and was refused entry of the building resulting in her wetting herself in front of people then had to walk to the car in wet clothes cos stupidly I forgot to pack her spare clothing.

Surely they can't stop her from using toilets can they? They don't know if she has any health problems - which she doesn't but still it's not the point!!
Should I complain to the head of year?

It's basic human rights to use toilets when needed!

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Heckythump1 · 07/02/2024 21:28

Can you get her to go before you leave the nursery?

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 07/02/2024 21:30

Is the nursery at the school?

I don't really see the harm, however I can see why they would want a blanket rule that says only students in that class can use those toilets. I also don't see why you can't get your DD to sit on the loo before leaving nursery? How long is it between leaving nursery and getting home that she always needs to go at the school?

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tiredmumma90 · 07/02/2024 21:30

Yeah, I've told the nursery teachers to please try and get her to go before she leaves but some times she doesn't always need to go in nursery

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Shinyandnew1 · 07/02/2024 21:33

I would take the youngest into the nursery toilets when you’re there to go before you go round to collect the eldest.

Hercisback · 07/02/2024 21:35

Take her to the nursery toilets.
I can see why the teachers aren't keen letting someone in all the time. As a one off it's OK, as a pattern of having to accompany/be aware of you for safeguarding you're interfering with the end of their day.

Octavia64 · 07/02/2024 21:36

I would imagine they have a rule saying only children at the school can use the toilets.

If you are taking your younger child actually in the loos as school there is an obvious safeguarding risk - parents are not crb checked and shouldn't be in the school loos that are for the children.

Is there a visitors loo by reception?

WhyIOughtTo · 07/02/2024 21:38

I think they can stop her. Who is responsible for her when she's in the school after she's been discharged into your care after the end of nursery?

How does nursery finish before school? How do they fit in the two sessions of three hours and still manage to finish before school?

90yomakeuproom · 07/02/2024 21:48

WhyIOughtTo · 07/02/2024 21:38

I think they can stop her. Who is responsible for her when she's in the school after she's been discharged into your care after the end of nursery?

How does nursery finish before school? How do they fit in the two sessions of three hours and still manage to finish before school?

Nursery is probably 9-3
School is usually 6.5 hours so 8.45-3.15

ExcitingRicotta · 07/02/2024 21:51

Is she going in by herself? that sounds problematic. But so does you accompanying her?
As others, get her to pee at nursery. Even if the staff don’t do it, make sure you do.
failing that, I’m sure the needing to pee immediately after nursery phase won’t last too long.

butmumineedit · 07/02/2024 21:53

Do you go in with her / if so it will be a safeguarding issue as it's not good practice to have parents in toilets when children still in school.
At our school the nursery children would either come to reception with their parent and we escort to disabled toilet or they go back round to nursery and use theirs.

mynameiscalypso · 07/02/2024 21:55

If we were going anywhere other than straight home after nursery, I always made DS go before he left even if that meant that I took him.

Soapboxqueen · 07/02/2024 21:55

I think the problem here is that it's become a habit. A one off emergency was probably fine but all the time not so much.

If she can't hold it, then she needs to go at nursery before she leaves. There's no way she goes from not needing it at all to wetting herself in 20 minutes, so she needs to have a try.

OoohLaLaLa · 07/02/2024 21:56

If you need to accompany her then I suspect it’s you that they are stopping rather than her.

Home time is a busy time and you have to make sure every child has gone home with the right person.

Also having to keep an eye on an adult in the building for safeguarding would be an extra stress and I can see why they don’t want it to become a regular thing.

theduchessofspork · 07/02/2024 21:57

Take her to the loo before she leaves nursery

I’m guessing it’s an insurance thing? and if it’s happening all the time I can see they might be frustrated by you not taking her before she arrives

YourLocal · 07/02/2024 22:24

Maybe tell the staff at the nursery to make sure she goes to the toilet before coming out because the idiot staff of year 2 won’t let her use their ones!! Some people need to remember being their age!

lanthanum · 07/02/2024 22:55

You need to make sure she's been before she leaves the nursery area, whether or not she thinks she needs to - it sounds like it's predictable enough.

(I remember the conversations with DD at that age: "I don't need to." "Well you sit on the toilet anyway, and if there's nothing then you can say 'I told you so'." She never did get to say "I told you so.")

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tiredmumma90 · 08/02/2024 07:29

Thanks for the replies. I DO NOT go into the school with her. I do tell the teachers and DD to go before she leaves nursery.
I didn't expect such negative replies though!!

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Airdustmoon · 08/02/2024 07:30

My DS was at a day nursery near my work and we had a 30 minute journey home on the bus every day. I took him for a wee before we left nursery every single day, as there was obviously no toilet on the bus! Just make her go at pick up.

QuillBill · 08/02/2024 07:34

Nursery is probably 9-3
School is usually 6.5 hours so 8.45-3.15

Most school nurseries can't operate with these hours as the staff need to have a break. There are no extra staff to cover.

At my school the nursery finishes fifteen minutes after the main school.

Forestmumlondon · 08/02/2024 07:37

QuillBill · 08/02/2024 07:34

Nursery is probably 9-3
School is usually 6.5 hours so 8.45-3.15

Most school nurseries can't operate with these hours as the staff need to have a break. There are no extra staff to cover.

At my school the nursery finishes fifteen minutes after the main school.

Most round here are 9-3. If there are no extra staff to cover breaks how does an extra 15 mins help?

Forestmumlondon · 08/02/2024 07:38

I guess they might think it's a bit dangerous for her to be wandering around the building/ toilets on her own?

GrazingSheep · 08/02/2024 07:47

So you send a 3 year old into the school building on her own? And you expect someone else to be responsible for her?

Whinge · 08/02/2024 07:56

I DO NOT go into the school with her.

I thought the situation was odd before that comment, but I can't believe you're cross with the school because they've stopped a 3 year old from entering the school bulding alone.

I'm surprised they ever allowed it to happen in the first place. Especially when there's a perfectly sensible alternative, that she goes to the toilet before leaving nursery.

mitogoshi · 08/02/2024 07:59

It's normal not to be able to go into the school. Schools vary in size but our infant school was 270 kids, they couldn't have 150 ish siblings using the toilets daily, they were understanding if you were picking up from after school clubs once there wasn't many pupils there though

FloofyBird · 08/02/2024 08:08

No she can't do this op it's a safeguarding risk and she's not supervised. It would be a nightmare for school if something were to happen. You need to take her to the nursery toilets before you leave to collect your older child. If she needs to go later you need to go to school reception but I imagine they will get annoyed with that too if it happens a lot as a member of staff would need to be with you both unless they have toilets that are accessible from reception and away from students

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