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How did your year 6 find the reading SAT today?

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Thingsthatgo · 10/05/2023 16:58

My DS did well in all his SAT practice papers, but said the reading paper today was tough.

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SamPoodle123 · 11/05/2023 22:08

Sweetie1980 · 11/05/2023 21:59

What is the score needed for expected and GD?

I saw on an old school report for my ds when he was in year 3 I think and it said 111+ GDS. Expected was 100-110

STARCATCHER22 · 11/05/2023 22:15

SamPoodle123 · 11/05/2023 22:08

I saw on an old school report for my ds when he was in year 3 I think and it said 111+ GDS. Expected was 100-110

100 on the scaled score is EXS.
110 on the scaled score is GDS.

The raw score conversion won’t be available until the SATs results are back. The number of marks needed to score 100 or 110 on the scaled score changes each year.

SamPoodle123 · 11/05/2023 22:19

STARCATCHER22 · 11/05/2023 22:15

100 on the scaled score is EXS.
110 on the scaled score is GDS.

The raw score conversion won’t be available until the SATs results are back. The number of marks needed to score 100 or 110 on the scaled score changes each year.

So when you get the report, you get their raw score and the scaled score?

Vallmo47 · 11/05/2023 22:20

My Y6 is incredibly subdued and tearful, both in class and at home. All of the staff are in agreement that the tests have been ridiculously hard this year. My child passed 3 mock exams so if she fails the actual SATS I know exactly what to do with those results. I am disgusted with how many broken children I have seen this week. Disgusted.

STARCATCHER22 · 11/05/2023 22:28

SamPoodle123 · 11/05/2023 22:19

So when you get the report, you get their raw score and the scaled score?

The schools definitely get that information. Whether they share the raw score with you is up to them (from what I can remember at this point in SATs week!). (I guess you could ask for it if they don’t include it in the report)

Hollyhead · 11/05/2023 22:36

@STARCATCHER22 schools may initially not choose to share but under GDPR they should absolutely share any information requested about your own child.

STARCATCHER22 · 11/05/2023 22:38

Hollyhead · 11/05/2023 22:36

@STARCATCHER22 schools may initially not choose to share but under GDPR they should absolutely share any information requested about your own child.

I didn’t say that they wouldn’t share it with you if asked. Just that they may not choose to include it in their report to parents.

Hollyhead · 11/05/2023 22:39

@Mummyofdoggies no, gcse and a levels for this summer will have been written 18 months ago. No one from government sees the papers until they’re released. Don’t spread scaremongering shit about an industry you clearly know very little about.

Hollyhead · 11/05/2023 22:41

@STARCATCHER22 yes you’re right, but why schools don’t just release the whole lot or parents straight off baffles me, especially when it creates more admin.

Unsuredad123 · 11/05/2023 22:43

It seems most pp on here have dc who found it hard, and whilst I didn't tally up most seem to be parents of GD children. If those at this level struggled how upset must the dc who are St the other end of the class be feeling. Let's hope they get support from their schools.

CraftyGin · 11/05/2023 22:50

I am a volunteer invigilator. I think both English days were fine. The spellings were hard, but you have to have a range to differentiate the students.

Equally, the three texts in Reading enabled the higher achieving students to shine.

I am glad, that close to 60, I didn't have to do these papers.

mrsconradfisher · 11/05/2023 22:55

Mummyofdoggies · 11/05/2023 21:03

Off topic slightly....but this does not bode well for the GCSEs and A levels starting next week....Government are clearly on a mission here across the board! I feel for the students of all ages :(

That was actually my first thought when I saw the SATs papers this week. At the end of the day, these SATs results don’t matter to anyone apart from the school. If they do the same thing to GCSE and A level exams, it affects their whole future. My DS1 is about to do A levels after never even sitting an exam before, so how is it fair to make them even harder? He physically cannot do anymore revision/work.

Hollyhead · 11/05/2023 22:57

@mrsconradfisher ignore that post, government do not influence individual exam papers for political reasons. Exam paper security is extremely robust and the papers for this year will have been written 18 months ago.

mrsconradfisher · 11/05/2023 23:01

No I know they don’t influence them but it doesn’t bode well that they have made the SATs even harder than they ever have been before for the kids about to take exams. They know they are going to be more challenging than last years but to what extent?

miccoops · 11/05/2023 23:05

Unsuredad123 · 11/05/2023 22:43

It seems most pp on here have dc who found it hard, and whilst I didn't tally up most seem to be parents of GD children. If those at this level struggled how upset must the dc who are St the other end of the class be feeling. Let's hope they get support from their schools.

No, I don’t think it’s just GD kids. My son has fought hard to hit expected standard for comprehension, he had a tutor, practice with me and extra group sessions at school. He hit a low but expected standard for his mocks (2019/2022 papers) but came out of school broken yesterday. He thinks he failed.. it’s heartbreaking . He went in positive and came out so sad. He said the paper was the hardest he had ever done. Talking with other yr 6 mums, I think they struggled across the board, and that it was an unnecessarily difficult paper.

Feenie · 11/05/2023 23:14

SamPoodle123 · 11/05/2023 21:50

Do we actually get to know their scores in the end? Or do they just say GD etc?

Reporting the scaled score is statutory. Schools may choose whether to share the raw score or not (we do).

Soproudoflionesses · 12/05/2023 00:06

Dd is gd but has really struggled with tests but doesn't seem to care too much

MelonsOnSaleAgain · 12/05/2023 05:27

Are schools giving predicted SATs grades to parents. Ours hasn’t! They have treated the SaTS in the way I (and other parents online here) have at home, as a horrible inconvenient way to test that the school has been doing their job. Not as a test of the kids.

AFAIK our kids don’t know what they are expected to get. There’s been no revision out of school, No tutoring, no indication in any way that there is expectation on them.

I know that their teacher has even said to them when they’ve had an iffy practice test in class that it’s not their fault, must be his as he should have taught it. He’s taken all the pressure.

In turn, although my daughter has found the test on Wednesday hard, she wasn’t upset. It just was what it was.

MelonsOnSaleAgain · 12/05/2023 05:28

*parents I know

Mummyofdoggies · 12/05/2023 07:15

@Hollyhead was I rude to you so why be rude back? I have a right to my opinion and wasn't the only one......and you have absolutely no idea what I know or don't know thanks very much!! The Government want those grades down- they have told the teachers, kids and the country funnily enough re returning to pre covid boundaries. I am allowed to be concerned for the students and my colleagues on an anonymous forum....

Hollyhead · 12/05/2023 09:17

@Mummyofdoggies I’m sorry for being rude, but you and others are stirring up unnecessary fear.I have been a manager in the exams industry for many years. The curriculum is open to political interference when set, but GCSEs and A-level exam setting processes are extremely locked down and subject to high security. As are the grade boundaries which are set by chief examiners who are generally teachers anyway, it is right that grade boundaries were softened during covid, but it’s also right that at some point the awarding standard goes back towards the historic point. If not now then when? You could argue one more year I think but beyond that I think we really have to move on.

Anjay1 · 12/05/2023 10:07

Hi, my daughter was the same so it be interested what she gets too. Always been greater depth. Mine said the maths was too easy but I just hope silly mistakes were not made.

Anjay1 · 12/05/2023 10:08

Hi,

Does anyone know what the spellings were? my daughter said that the hardest spelling was ought.

Alargeoneplease89 · 12/05/2023 10:14

Just been discussing this on Nicky Campbell show, think I was in the minority for pro Sats.

My DD found parts of the reading difficult but the rest fine, I think it shows resilience to just get on with it. She is looking forward to the next 2 months of having fun with her friends and transitioning to high school. Doesn't it feel like most people overreact nowadays and everything is focused on mental health and negativity rather then positivity of well done for trying. We seem to be in a negative mindset these days.