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Court proceedings for school absence

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Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 19:35

Please bare with me, this is a long one!

My children's school instructed the Local Authority to issue me with a Fixed Penalty Notice in July of this year following an unauthorised absence.

For context, the absence was due to the children's dad taking them on a holiday for 5 days during term time. Dad and I are divorced, and have a very strained relationship. There have been previous Court Orders in place due to DV (perpetrated by him) and whilst he does maintain a good relationship with his children, our relationship is very dysfunctional.

Notably, there is no Prohibited Steps Order in place, so I have no legal power to stop him taking them out of the country (we have equal PR).

The school wrote to me informing me I was to be fined for this unauthorised absence and to expect a FPN from the Local Authority, which then arrived.

I contacted the Headteacher (who knows the extensive complex history and personal circumstances between dad and I) and confirmed that I had no part in this holiday - I didn't book it, pay for it, go on it or even consent to it! But ultimately, my lack of consent is a civil matter, not a legal matter.

She responded to say she would not be withdrawing the FPN as it sits with the Local Authority.

I then contacted the Local Authority, outlined the above, and was informed that FPNs are issued against 5 criteria and cannot be withdrawn, though they did advise me to go back to the Headteacher as criterion 3 states that FPNs are at the discretion of the Headteacher and are based on individual circumstances ie they can't cancel it, but the Headteacher can so to ask again.

I contacted the Headteacher again, and was contacted on the last day of term at 3.30pm to confirm she would not be cancelling the fine. Reasons given were largely she is following Local Authority policy & both parents are responsible for ensuring their children attend school. Again, I contested that 2 separated parents can be re-banded together as one party when our marriage and financial ties have been legally dissolved!

Fast forward, after raising this issue with my local MP, as well as the board of governors after unanswered emails from the school, the unpaid FPNs have now resulted in Court proceedings against me.

I have received a section 444(1) and I'm charged with failing to ensure my child attends school regularly (2 charges of this for 2 children).

The prosection case has been shared with me, and is full on material errors, including my name being spelt incorrectly in all FPNs, and incorrect recording of absences.

This 5 day period of absence was the first unauthorised absence they've ever had (year 5 and 6) since being at the school, but the attached Attendance Certificate has recorded another absence as unauthorised prior to this.

I've contacted the school again and asked for the incorrect data to be rectified (a 3 day sickness absence just before half term was recorded as unauthorised when it shouldn't have been. I followed the school policy and kept them off school for 48 hours following sickness & diarrhoea).

I've been told that they will not update thir record as, and I quote, my "ex husband told them we were on holiday" - they had called him during the half term week when we were actually away.

When I challenged this, I was then told "another pupil also said you were going on holiday". Again, we were, but not until the weekend and all days of the holiday were during the half term.

I have provided the school with confirmation of my holiday and I'm yet to hear back from them.

I intend to plead Not Guilty and include in my statement that I'm not the person the FPNs have been addressed to, and there are errors in the Attendance Cerificate which form part of their prosection.

I also have to highlight as this charge is a "strict liability" charge, there are only 5 accepted defences in Court. Only 1 of them potentially applies to me "unavoidable cause" i.e. I couldn't take them to school as they'd already left the country.

My question really is has anyone else experienced such extensive measures to prosecute a parent? I feel my individual circumstances are being totally ignored, that they're looking simply to prosecute and not support me, and of course this pending Court trial is causing significant distress.

My work means I travel abroad frequently, and therefore cannot have a criminal record.

The easy option would be to suck it up and just pay the fine, but I really don't see why I should have to when I had absolutely nothing to do with this absence!

It's also gone beyond that stage now as pleading guilty would mean I'm sentenced.

I'm concerned of this happening again in the future. If he decides to take them out of school again, and as I have no legal power to stop him, I potentially face all of this again.

Thanks in advance for reading, and please advise if you've experienced similar!

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NewIdeasToday · 07/11/2022 19:41

Sorry I have no advice. But this all sounds absolutely ridiculous and you are right to contest it. Good luck.

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 07/11/2022 19:43

Contest it. Or this will be a regular thing.. IF you decide to pay the fine remember to only pay half...

daretodenim · 07/11/2022 19:45

NewIdeasToday · 07/11/2022 19:41

Sorry I have no advice. But this all sounds absolutely ridiculous and you are right to contest it. Good luck.

This.

And if both parents have PR, why isn't the fine to both parents? It's like they've put you together for the absence part and then separated you again for the fine! I'm sorry, I'm not helping, but I hope someone who can is here v soon.

MargotMoon · 07/11/2022 19:48

Maybe post this in Legal Matters as well? There might be someone there who can advise.

Good luck, I hope you can fight this

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 19:49

To confirm, dad and I have both received FPNs - I have challenged mine and he has ignored his! He will likely ignore his Court Notice too. He already has a criminal record so isn't bothered by the outcome as in his opinion, pleading guilty and paying the fine plus Court costs is still cheaper than taking them away in the school holidays.

My refusal to pay is based on principle and I honestly believe this needs to be looked at on a deeper level as there must be many parents in my situation! The so-called policy fails to take into account separated parents and many children have 2 separate households

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DancingLedgend · 07/11/2022 19:50

What a nightmare and unfair situation.

I suggest you ask MNHQ to move this to 'Legal'. There are some experienced lawyers there.(and also non-legal posters who may or may not know what they're talking about).

Good luck.

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 07/11/2022 19:52

Contest all the way op. Maybe email your MP for advice? I had fast results when I involved mine when exh was still claiming benefits for ds when he had moved ft to live with me.

carefulcalculator · 07/11/2022 19:56

This is dreadful. These fucking fines are ridicuous Angry
I think you need some legal advice.

Newbiecaravanning · 07/11/2022 19:56

Sounds ridiculous, it's like people have lost all common sense these days.🤦🏼‍♀️
Hope someone realises it's ridiculous and it gets cancelled.

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 19:57

I've contacted my MP and she can't do anything for my "individual circumstances" but is looking into whether there are planned reforms to the policy. I will literally campaign to get this into parliament if I must! I feel so strongly about this!

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itsgettingweird · 07/11/2022 19:58

I'm not a lawyer.

But I have taken government departments to tribunal before and won every time.

What I've done is take their own statements - for example the point 3. Records of what was said when you rang and evidence of the email trail.

Also the record of your holiday to prove that facts don't change because someone decides they've heard something that's not true verbally.

I would also say to ask the question "how can I ensure my child is at school if their other parent has removed them from the country?".

bellac11 · 07/11/2022 20:01

Write a really clear chronology and record of who spoke to who and how you know this

friskybivalves · 07/11/2022 20:01

There is an amazing poster called @prh47bridge who is fantastically generous with her legal knowledge. She usually gives invaluable advice on school appeals and the like, but may well have expertise in this area, or be able to point you in the right direction!

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:03

Thank you.

Best case scenario is this whole rigmarole is dismissed before it even gets to trial based on how utterly ridiculous it is!

But in the event the Headteacher still refuses to withdraw the fine, and the LA still proceed to prosecute, I need to be prepared to win as the sentencing will cost me my job & livlihood :'(

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Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:06

friskybivalves · 07/11/2022 20:01

There is an amazing poster called @prh47bridge who is fantastically generous with her legal knowledge. She usually gives invaluable advice on school appeals and the like, but may well have expertise in this area, or be able to point you in the right direction!

Praying this poster sees this and is able to help!

I know I need legal advice on this but with the current coat of living, single parent, no legal aid etc I just don't know how I'll afford it

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Takeachance18 · 07/11/2022 20:06

This is crazy - there was the case in the Isle of Wight a few years ago where both parents were fined.

As you have previous extensive court dealings from the sounds of it regarding parental rights, maybe some of the DV charities, might be able to help, in terms of protecting other parents post divorce (the Isle of Wight case made sense because actually both parents had taken them on holiday during term time, just one holiday counted (as Dad wanted to equally benefit from term time holiday).

thegruffalosbum · 07/11/2022 20:07

So sorry to hear this. It is deeply deeply unfair.

What would you be found guilty of exactly? Is it a criminal case or just a civil one? If civil, doesn't that mean you don't get a criminal record?

Jolie12345 · 07/11/2022 20:07

I would be fuming. Not only because of your situation specifically, but because schools close at the drop of a hat since Covid. Too hot. Too cold. Water issues. Short staff. Education isn’t the be all and end all then. But if a parent decides to take their own flesh and blood out of school they get prosecuted. Madness.

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:08

thegruffalosbum · 07/11/2022 20:07

So sorry to hear this. It is deeply deeply unfair.

What would you be found guilty of exactly? Is it a criminal case or just a civil one? If civil, doesn't that mean you don't get a criminal record?

The FPN doesn't appear on your record but being found guilty/pleading guilty will result in a criminal record as its now a criminal prosecution

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itsgettingweird · 07/11/2022 20:10

unlock.org.uk/advice/penalty-notice/

Does this help?

thegruffalosbum · 07/11/2022 20:10

I applaud you for contesting it so forcefully and, under the circumstances, you absolutely deserve to be acquitted. It is a completely outrageous situation. What an arse the headteacher is. Sorry I have no legal advice but certainly you have my sympathy and moral support.

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:11

Jolie12345 · 07/11/2022 20:07

I would be fuming. Not only because of your situation specifically, but because schools close at the drop of a hat since Covid. Too hot. Too cold. Water issues. Short staff. Education isn’t the be all and end all then. But if a parent decides to take their own flesh and blood out of school they get prosecuted. Madness.

This!!

Plus it boils back down to the fact I didn't personally take them out of school. The decision their dad made was entirely his decision and had absolutely nothing to do with me, yet I'm being prosecuted!

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HangerLaneGyratorySystem · 07/11/2022 20:12

It’s a form of control on his part surely - you need someone to advocate for you. I wonder if Rights of Women could advise, or one of the education charities like IPSEA?

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:13

itsgettingweird · 07/11/2022 20:10

Thank you but sadly, no. Its progressed from being a Fixed Penalty Notice which doesn't appear on police database, to now being a criminal charge which if found guilty or if I plead guilty, it does appear on my record and would show up on a DBS check.

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itsgettingweird · 07/11/2022 20:14

Holidays in term time
You have to get permission from the head teacher if you want to take your child out of school during term time.
You can only do this if:
• you make an application to the head teacher in advance (as a parent the child normally lives with)
• there are exceptional circumstances
It’s up to the head teacher how many days your child can be away from school if leave is granted.

From here www.gov.uk/school-attendance-absence

So I'd be looking at a loophole that as the parent the children usually live with you didn't make an application. They were taken out of school without your consent. So if you didn't make an application and didn't remove them how have you broken the law?

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