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Court proceedings for school absence

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Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 19:35

Please bare with me, this is a long one!

My children's school instructed the Local Authority to issue me with a Fixed Penalty Notice in July of this year following an unauthorised absence.

For context, the absence was due to the children's dad taking them on a holiday for 5 days during term time. Dad and I are divorced, and have a very strained relationship. There have been previous Court Orders in place due to DV (perpetrated by him) and whilst he does maintain a good relationship with his children, our relationship is very dysfunctional.

Notably, there is no Prohibited Steps Order in place, so I have no legal power to stop him taking them out of the country (we have equal PR).

The school wrote to me informing me I was to be fined for this unauthorised absence and to expect a FPN from the Local Authority, which then arrived.

I contacted the Headteacher (who knows the extensive complex history and personal circumstances between dad and I) and confirmed that I had no part in this holiday - I didn't book it, pay for it, go on it or even consent to it! But ultimately, my lack of consent is a civil matter, not a legal matter.

She responded to say she would not be withdrawing the FPN as it sits with the Local Authority.

I then contacted the Local Authority, outlined the above, and was informed that FPNs are issued against 5 criteria and cannot be withdrawn, though they did advise me to go back to the Headteacher as criterion 3 states that FPNs are at the discretion of the Headteacher and are based on individual circumstances ie they can't cancel it, but the Headteacher can so to ask again.

I contacted the Headteacher again, and was contacted on the last day of term at 3.30pm to confirm she would not be cancelling the fine. Reasons given were largely she is following Local Authority policy & both parents are responsible for ensuring their children attend school. Again, I contested that 2 separated parents can be re-banded together as one party when our marriage and financial ties have been legally dissolved!

Fast forward, after raising this issue with my local MP, as well as the board of governors after unanswered emails from the school, the unpaid FPNs have now resulted in Court proceedings against me.

I have received a section 444(1) and I'm charged with failing to ensure my child attends school regularly (2 charges of this for 2 children).

The prosection case has been shared with me, and is full on material errors, including my name being spelt incorrectly in all FPNs, and incorrect recording of absences.

This 5 day period of absence was the first unauthorised absence they've ever had (year 5 and 6) since being at the school, but the attached Attendance Certificate has recorded another absence as unauthorised prior to this.

I've contacted the school again and asked for the incorrect data to be rectified (a 3 day sickness absence just before half term was recorded as unauthorised when it shouldn't have been. I followed the school policy and kept them off school for 48 hours following sickness & diarrhoea).

I've been told that they will not update thir record as, and I quote, my "ex husband told them we were on holiday" - they had called him during the half term week when we were actually away.

When I challenged this, I was then told "another pupil also said you were going on holiday". Again, we were, but not until the weekend and all days of the holiday were during the half term.

I have provided the school with confirmation of my holiday and I'm yet to hear back from them.

I intend to plead Not Guilty and include in my statement that I'm not the person the FPNs have been addressed to, and there are errors in the Attendance Cerificate which form part of their prosection.

I also have to highlight as this charge is a "strict liability" charge, there are only 5 accepted defences in Court. Only 1 of them potentially applies to me "unavoidable cause" i.e. I couldn't take them to school as they'd already left the country.

My question really is has anyone else experienced such extensive measures to prosecute a parent? I feel my individual circumstances are being totally ignored, that they're looking simply to prosecute and not support me, and of course this pending Court trial is causing significant distress.

My work means I travel abroad frequently, and therefore cannot have a criminal record.

The easy option would be to suck it up and just pay the fine, but I really don't see why I should have to when I had absolutely nothing to do with this absence!

It's also gone beyond that stage now as pleading guilty would mean I'm sentenced.

I'm concerned of this happening again in the future. If he decides to take them out of school again, and as I have no legal power to stop him, I potentially face all of this again.

Thanks in advance for reading, and please advise if you've experienced similar!

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katmarie · 08/11/2022 09:43

In terms of evidence you were in the UK at the time, did you text your mum to have the kids, or while she had them? Anything that shows that you were working, such as lesson recordings, chat transcripts? All the documentation you can find to support your point.

Targeted101 · 08/11/2022 09:57

prh47bridge · 08/11/2022 09:16

Yes, you need to have evidence that you were in the UK at the time of the incorrectly recorded absence. The court won't just take your word for it.

How would I prove this? I have submitted evidence of my holiday with flight details. This confirms the holiday was 5 days later than the sickness absence. I'm not sure how to evidence me being in the UK. I can evidence a phone call made to my mum, but obviously not the contents of that call where I asked her to look after my children

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Confusion101 · 08/11/2022 10:05

If you were working the days they were sick, could u get a letter from your employer stating that?

TurquoiseBeach · 08/11/2022 10:20

That sounds crackers OP. How can you be responsible for something you have no control over? Given that the paperwork is inaccurate, won't your part be invalid anyway (like with a parking ticket)? I don't know why the head is being so unreasonable, unless she is unable to waive it for only one parent.

LadyLapsang · 08/11/2022 10:26

Did your ex husband provide you with a travel consent form for the children, & you for him, for these trips? Perhaps this would show the dates of travel but equally it may imply that you consented to him removing the children from school for a holiday.

prh47bridge · 08/11/2022 10:29

Targeted101 · 08/11/2022 09:57

How would I prove this? I have submitted evidence of my holiday with flight details. This confirms the holiday was 5 days later than the sickness absence. I'm not sure how to evidence me being in the UK. I can evidence a phone call made to my mum, but obviously not the contents of that call where I asked her to look after my children

That should be enough.

friskybivalves · 08/11/2022 12:20

prh47bridge · 07/11/2022 21:24

Several points...

It is correct that both parents can be fined for an unauthorised absence. Most LAs won't fine a parent that has no involvement with the child at all. Some will not fine where it is clear that one parent is responsible for the absence. However, some will and the law allows them to do so.

Unless there is a CAO in place naming your ex as someone with whom your children are to live, he is committing a criminal offence if he takes your children out of the country.

You can (and probably should from the sounds of it) get a Prohibited Steps Order preventing him from taking the children out of school for a holiday.

I'm afraid the fact they spelt your name wrongly on the FPN is irrelevant. Despite what many people seem to think, this doesn't invalidate an FPN. As long as it is clearly for you, it is valid.

The incorrect recording of absence could help you. There is a good chance it means the FPN was issued contrary to the LA's Code of Conduct, which means it was invalid.

As they are prosecuting under section 444(1) rather than 444(1A), the worst you will get is a fine. However, the courts are generally realistic about real world situations. If you explain this to the court, there is a good chance the charges will be dismissed. Indeed, if you can get the LA to understand that the school incorrectly recorded a genuine sickness absence as unauthorised, they may drop the prosecution before it gets to court, although that is probably a long shot.

@friskybivalves No need for an apology. I am a man, but I rarely mention that in my posts. As most posters on here are women, it isn't surprising that many people think I am too.

Without wishing to derail this important thread, I slightly had you down in my mind's eye as the marvellous Fiona Shaw. May now have to recast you as Martin Shaw. Discombobulating.

itsgettingweird · 08/11/2022 12:20

With regards proving you were at works

I'd just provide holiday details and then if they say it doesn't prove you were in the U.K. you can say being at work does and give them employers details!

Targeted101 · 08/11/2022 13:04

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/627828/sponsors/new?token=V0YJqrpMZ99o3ZrwRvlI

For all who have supported me on this thread, please can I ask you sign and share?

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EssexCat · 08/11/2022 13:13

Sorry rushing out so have only read all of the OPs posts.

This is madness - I work in a school and we had the exact same situation. Our LA advised us that it was at our discretion to push for fines for both parents but strongly advised only the one who actually took them away.

Which of course is just what we did. Good luck - what an utter waste of time and money for the LA and the courts system. As well as for you OP obviously.

WobblyLondoner · 08/11/2022 13:22

Signed.

Sorry OP that you're having to go through this. Your school's headteacher should be ashamed of themselves for not exercising a bit of discretion and a whole lot of sense.

user568720164728553401928574738 · 08/11/2022 14:22

I went to sign your petition there to have this message.

Court proceedings for school absence
Targeted101 · 08/11/2022 16:23

Petition has reached the maxi number of signatures and is now at the "processing" stage to go live, so nothing further can be added until they process it as live.

I'll keep you updated as to when that's done as I'd love to get this to over 100,000 signatures so it can be debated in parliament!

It's a backwards draconian policy and needs amending

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itsgettingweird · 08/11/2022 16:27

Just came on to say I couldn't sign either.

But we'll done for getting the number required to process.

This is madness.

Damnautocorrect · 08/11/2022 17:51

Would Jess Phillips be any help? This seems like just another way an abuser can work his magic on his victim?

BonnesVacances · 08/11/2022 18:15

Your Google timeline will show that you were at home on the days in question and will also show when you travelled to go away on holiday.

mathanxiety · 08/11/2022 18:28

YYY to the Google timeline.

Do you have a pet who was put in kennels/ cat hotel while you were away? Did you have your post held at the post office? Any Uber or taxi charge to the airport or airport car parking charge? How about ring doorbell footage of you and the children leaving the house with luggage on the first day of your trip? Any supermarket receipts or other documentation showing you were in your local area?

Berthatydfil · 08/11/2022 18:30

Can you get a statement from your employer to say that you were in work on those dates?

MindatWork · 08/11/2022 18:48

Just to say @Targeted101 that screenshot has your real name on it.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 08/11/2022 19:04

Does your phone bill from when you called your mum show it was on uk-uk rates? To prove you were calling from the UK? And any calls / messages / data while you were away, do they show as foreign/roaming rates?

Can your employer confirm you were at work?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 08/11/2022 19:10

In terms of proving you weren't on holiday is there any cctv at work / in the car park showing you arriving and leaving work? Any appointments you had? Any shopping you did showing on your bank statements that you were in Sainsburys in Gravesend not in a beach bar in Cape Verde? Also any showing you were buying in a foreign country / currency while you were away, to prove the period of the holiday?

OhRiRi · 08/11/2022 19:36

Did you know their dad was taking them on holiday?

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2022 20:14

user568720164728553401928574738 · 08/11/2022 14:22

I went to sign your petition there to have this message.

This is outing OP
i haven’t reported it because it’s her choice I suppose

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2022 20:15

Hoppinggreen · 08/11/2022 20:14

This is outing OP
i haven’t reported it because it’s her choice I suppose

Not this, the screenshot

user568720164728553401928574738 · 08/11/2022 20:15

@Hoppinggreen she's posted a link to it on her other thread.