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Court proceedings for school absence

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Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 19:35

Please bare with me, this is a long one!

My children's school instructed the Local Authority to issue me with a Fixed Penalty Notice in July of this year following an unauthorised absence.

For context, the absence was due to the children's dad taking them on a holiday for 5 days during term time. Dad and I are divorced, and have a very strained relationship. There have been previous Court Orders in place due to DV (perpetrated by him) and whilst he does maintain a good relationship with his children, our relationship is very dysfunctional.

Notably, there is no Prohibited Steps Order in place, so I have no legal power to stop him taking them out of the country (we have equal PR).

The school wrote to me informing me I was to be fined for this unauthorised absence and to expect a FPN from the Local Authority, which then arrived.

I contacted the Headteacher (who knows the extensive complex history and personal circumstances between dad and I) and confirmed that I had no part in this holiday - I didn't book it, pay for it, go on it or even consent to it! But ultimately, my lack of consent is a civil matter, not a legal matter.

She responded to say she would not be withdrawing the FPN as it sits with the Local Authority.

I then contacted the Local Authority, outlined the above, and was informed that FPNs are issued against 5 criteria and cannot be withdrawn, though they did advise me to go back to the Headteacher as criterion 3 states that FPNs are at the discretion of the Headteacher and are based on individual circumstances ie they can't cancel it, but the Headteacher can so to ask again.

I contacted the Headteacher again, and was contacted on the last day of term at 3.30pm to confirm she would not be cancelling the fine. Reasons given were largely she is following Local Authority policy & both parents are responsible for ensuring their children attend school. Again, I contested that 2 separated parents can be re-banded together as one party when our marriage and financial ties have been legally dissolved!

Fast forward, after raising this issue with my local MP, as well as the board of governors after unanswered emails from the school, the unpaid FPNs have now resulted in Court proceedings against me.

I have received a section 444(1) and I'm charged with failing to ensure my child attends school regularly (2 charges of this for 2 children).

The prosection case has been shared with me, and is full on material errors, including my name being spelt incorrectly in all FPNs, and incorrect recording of absences.

This 5 day period of absence was the first unauthorised absence they've ever had (year 5 and 6) since being at the school, but the attached Attendance Certificate has recorded another absence as unauthorised prior to this.

I've contacted the school again and asked for the incorrect data to be rectified (a 3 day sickness absence just before half term was recorded as unauthorised when it shouldn't have been. I followed the school policy and kept them off school for 48 hours following sickness & diarrhoea).

I've been told that they will not update thir record as, and I quote, my "ex husband told them we were on holiday" - they had called him during the half term week when we were actually away.

When I challenged this, I was then told "another pupil also said you were going on holiday". Again, we were, but not until the weekend and all days of the holiday were during the half term.

I have provided the school with confirmation of my holiday and I'm yet to hear back from them.

I intend to plead Not Guilty and include in my statement that I'm not the person the FPNs have been addressed to, and there are errors in the Attendance Cerificate which form part of their prosection.

I also have to highlight as this charge is a "strict liability" charge, there are only 5 accepted defences in Court. Only 1 of them potentially applies to me "unavoidable cause" i.e. I couldn't take them to school as they'd already left the country.

My question really is has anyone else experienced such extensive measures to prosecute a parent? I feel my individual circumstances are being totally ignored, that they're looking simply to prosecute and not support me, and of course this pending Court trial is causing significant distress.

My work means I travel abroad frequently, and therefore cannot have a criminal record.

The easy option would be to suck it up and just pay the fine, but I really don't see why I should have to when I had absolutely nothing to do with this absence!

It's also gone beyond that stage now as pleading guilty would mean I'm sentenced.

I'm concerned of this happening again in the future. If he decides to take them out of school again, and as I have no legal power to stop him, I potentially face all of this again.

Thanks in advance for reading, and please advise if you've experienced similar!

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Eupraxia · 07/11/2022 20:15

What is the present percentage on the attendance certificate?

What is the percentage figure for unauthorised absences?

FYI - the fine isn't only for the holiday. It's for all the other absences too

MarigoldPetals · 07/11/2022 20:19

Jolie12345 · 07/11/2022 20:07

I would be fuming. Not only because of your situation specifically, but because schools close at the drop of a hat since Covid. Too hot. Too cold. Water issues. Short staff. Education isn’t the be all and end all then. But if a parent decides to take their own flesh and blood out of school they get prosecuted. Madness.

It was the government who closed schools during COVID and it is health and safety laws that close them for issues like no water etc.
Teacher/staff shortages are a combination of poor working conditions, stress, harassment from pupils and parents, overwork etc
They certainly don’t close at a drop of a hat.

Hoppinggreen · 07/11/2022 20:20

friskybivalves · 07/11/2022 20:01

There is an amazing poster called @prh47bridge who is fantastically generous with her legal knowledge. She usually gives invaluable advice on school appeals and the like, but may well have expertise in this area, or be able to point you in the right direction!

This person is often very helpful, but I think they are actually a man.
Best of luck with this OP, it’s completely unfair

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:21

Eupraxia · 07/11/2022 20:15

What is the present percentage on the attendance certificate?

What is the percentage figure for unauthorised absences?

FYI - the fine isn't only for the holiday. It's for all the other absences too

The percentage rates are incorrect due to the first (and only other) absence being recorded with the wrong code.

The court notice specifically states the charge is in relation to the 5 days and specifes the dates, so it is in relation to the holiday.

I'd understand if they only fined dad, but it's infuriating I'm being fined for something totally beyond my control!

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PiffleWiffleWoozle · 07/11/2022 20:22

The links here might help you find somewhere to get advice:

www.centreforwomensjustice.org.uk/advice-home

IhearyouClemFandango · 07/11/2022 20:24

This is very odd. Because in our LA the decision does not rest with the head at all, but with the council. We can refer people for a fine, but the decision rests with the ed welfare team.

Jolie12345 · 07/11/2022 20:26

MarigoldPetals · 07/11/2022 20:19

It was the government who closed schools during COVID and it is health and safety laws that close them for issues like no water etc.
Teacher/staff shortages are a combination of poor working conditions, stress, harassment from pupils and parents, overwork etc
They certainly don’t close at a drop of a hat.

I’d have to disagree. It’s given them license and the infrastructure to close at a moments notice and still say they are educating (which they aren’t). kids used to walk to school in the snow, wear extra clothes, shelter from bombs under tables for heavens sake. Now schools close in case someone slips on the way. Or can’t wash their hands. In many cases the children would be safer at school. The excuse we often get is that teachers can’t get to work because of a dusting of snow. But the parents of the kids who are off school still have to get to work.

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:27

IhearyouClemFandango · 07/11/2022 20:24

This is very odd. Because in our LA the decision does not rest with the head at all, but with the council. We can refer people for a fine, but the decision rests with the ed welfare team.

The Head has stated she is acting in line with LA policy, and the LA are saying they're acting on instruction of the Head!

I've cc'd both into my emails when challenging this, and have ultimately got nowhere. The closest I've got is from a member of the inclusion team within the council sending me the FPN criteria, and it does appear that the FPN can be withdrawn at the discretion of the Head based on individual circumstances, which I feel she has chosen to purposely ignore.

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ThreeFeetTall · 07/11/2022 20:30

Is there a mechanism for the head to fine one parent and not the other? If she withdrew it from you would she also have to withdraw it from dad?

Have you and the headteacher fallen out over something previously?

LindseyHoyleSpeaks · 07/11/2022 20:30

I would go to the press OP.

Then I’d remove the children from the school with the draconian head.

LittleBearPad · 07/11/2022 20:33

Jolie12345 · 07/11/2022 20:26

I’d have to disagree. It’s given them license and the infrastructure to close at a moments notice and still say they are educating (which they aren’t). kids used to walk to school in the snow, wear extra clothes, shelter from bombs under tables for heavens sake. Now schools close in case someone slips on the way. Or can’t wash their hands. In many cases the children would be safer at school. The excuse we often get is that teachers can’t get to work because of a dusting of snow. But the parents of the kids who are off school still have to get to work.

Don’t be absurd.

Jolie12345 · 07/11/2022 20:38

LittleBearPad · 07/11/2022 20:33

Don’t be absurd.

I won’t.

Eupraxia · 07/11/2022 20:39

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:21

The percentage rates are incorrect due to the first (and only other) absence being recorded with the wrong code.

The court notice specifically states the charge is in relation to the 5 days and specifes the dates, so it is in relation to the holiday.

I'd understand if they only fined dad, but it's infuriating I'm being fined for something totally beyond my control!

Two periods of absence only in the while year?

What is the overall and Unauthorised percentage on the certificate?

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:39

ThreeFeetTall · 07/11/2022 20:30

Is there a mechanism for the head to fine one parent and not the other? If she withdrew it from you would she also have to withdraw it from dad?

Have you and the headteacher fallen out over something previously?

There have been past instances where I've challenged decisions. One of which was the pastoral support I asked to be put in place to support my children (incident with dad led to yet another MASH referral). The "support" was detrimental and I challenged their methods.

Another incident was during the pandemic when she didn't want to issue my children with their allocated key worker space on the basis i was working from home (closed schools meant i had to teach live lessons) ; couldn't educate my own children if I'm delivering live lessons as per my normal teaching timetable. Also my kids popping up on camera for recorded sessions was a safeguarding concern so they needed their entitled space

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Orchidflower1 · 07/11/2022 20:40

@Targeted101 no answers at all but just offering support and hoping that someone comes with legal advice.

I feel it’s absolutely crazy you being prosecuted. To me it’s like fining the passengers in a speeding car- they have no say and you had no say.

RandomPerson42 · 07/11/2022 20:47

I suspect the head has no means of withdrawing the FPN for one of the parents and not the other. In which case her hands are tied, as the FPN should most definitely be applied to the father.

It does seem unfair, but the law is very often unfair, fairness does not come into law as it is subjective. You have legal parental responsibilities to ensure the children do not have unauthorised school holidays and should have at least tried to prevent the father from doing this if possible. Did you know in advance that they would be going? The father has their passports? Did you inform the school and tell them in advance that you did not consent and ask for their advice? Or did you just think “not my problem” when in reality it was.

You seem to have shot yourself in the foot due to your principles not aligning with the law of the land - but maybe it will hit the news and lead to a review and clarification and your perception of fairness for families In similar circumstances.

Quite often the law is an ass but it has teeth so is best avoided, especially if it’s only a £120 fine compared to losing your employment...

The fairest thing would have been the father to man-up and pay your FPN for you without even being asked to do so imho.

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:49

Eupraxia · 07/11/2022 20:39

Two periods of absence only in the while year?

What is the overall and Unauthorised percentage on the certificate?

Attendance figures are over 91%

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Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:55

RandomPerson42 · 07/11/2022 20:47

I suspect the head has no means of withdrawing the FPN for one of the parents and not the other. In which case her hands are tied, as the FPN should most definitely be applied to the father.

It does seem unfair, but the law is very often unfair, fairness does not come into law as it is subjective. You have legal parental responsibilities to ensure the children do not have unauthorised school holidays and should have at least tried to prevent the father from doing this if possible. Did you know in advance that they would be going? The father has their passports? Did you inform the school and tell them in advance that you did not consent and ask for their advice? Or did you just think “not my problem” when in reality it was.

You seem to have shot yourself in the foot due to your principles not aligning with the law of the land - but maybe it will hit the news and lead to a review and clarification and your perception of fairness for families In similar circumstances.

Quite often the law is an ass but it has teeth so is best avoided, especially if it’s only a £120 fine compared to losing your employment...

The fairest thing would have been the father to man-up and pay your FPN for you without even being asked to do so imho.

I see what you are saying but ultimately I had and still have no legal power to stop him from taking them abroad, should he decide to do so again.

This is why I've involved my MP as I believe this so called policy isn't taking into account modern family day dynamics.

If the court has dissolved a marriage and granted a financial order to separate ties, why should a headteacher be able to regroup us together as one entity?

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RandomPerson42 · 07/11/2022 20:57

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 20:49

Attendance figures are over 91%

I know your children are young but as they get older I hope you realise that 91% isn’t good.

At one school near us children doing GCSEs who had 95% attendance got on average across all subjects grades 1.5 higher than children with an attendance of 92%. I.e. a grade 7 or 8 instead of a grade 6.

Attendance is far more important than many realise.

Blueblell · 07/11/2022 20:57

That is rough! I took mine out for 5 days and never heard a word about it. Clearly they should only be fining the parent who took the children out of school.

friskybivalves · 07/11/2022 21:00

Hoppinggreen · 07/11/2022 20:20

This person is often very helpful, but I think they are actually a man.
Best of luck with this OP, it’s completely unfair

Oops. Apologies to @prh47bridge for emasculating him!

RandomPerson42 · 07/11/2022 21:01

“If the court has dissolved a marriage and granted a financial order to separate ties, why should a headteacher be able to regroup us together as one entity?”

It’s not the head doing this, it’s the law. You should not be blaming the head.

The fines are per parent, you already said you both got individual FPNs.

chocolateisavegetable · 07/11/2022 21:01

No good advice OP - but just wanted to say I really hope you win as this seems incredibly unfair

RandomPerson42 · 07/11/2022 21:04

“This is why I've involved my MP as I believe this so called policy isn't taking into account modern family day dynamics.”

It’s not “policy”, it’s the law. Should the law be changed? Possibly and maybe your case will be the one that leads to that.

Targeted101 · 07/11/2022 21:04

RandomPerson42 · 07/11/2022 20:57

I know your children are young but as they get older I hope you realise that 91% isn’t good.

At one school near us children doing GCSEs who had 95% attendance got on average across all subjects grades 1.5 higher than children with an attendance of 92%. I.e. a grade 7 or 8 instead of a grade 6.

Attendance is far more important than many realise.

As a qualified teacher, I absolutely understand this. However, their absence is this low based on dad's choice to remove them from school.

Their usual attendance is over 98% and they have been awarded 100% merits before for not missing a single day (pre pandemic).

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