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sen and one to one

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Chilena2022 · 21/09/2022 18:18

my son is 4 years old and at the moment I need to home educated him because the school can’t meet his needs and they ask me to be his one to one until they get funding. I refused to be his one to one and I am not sending him to school.
This morning the headteacher said if I don’t send my child to school they will remove his name.
I really lost about what this schools wants?
and it is normal for parents of sen children to be asked to be their one to one of the children until they get funding?

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hiredandsqueak · 21/09/2022 22:57

The child is being unlawfully excluded, prevented from taking his rightful place this is discriminatory and unlawful. The parent hasn't chosen not to take up the place the HT is actively preventing attendance so it's laughable that you think they are trying to prevent the child from slipping through the net.

Thatsnotmycar · 21/09/2022 22:59

I think you are being very generous. HTs don’t illegally exclude a pupil when they have the best interests of the pupil at heart. Neither do they threaten to off roll whilst the pupil being illegally excluded as that would be unlawful.

In many areas Portage won’t get involved now DC has started school.

SequinsandStilettos · 21/09/2022 23:00

Which Local Authority are you, OP?
Do you have anyone to attend this meeting with you?

Chilena2022 · 21/09/2022 23:07

thank you very much, at the moment my son does not have any diagnosis, we are going to see the paediatric team in 3 weeks time. The only thing that I will have soon is the speaking therapy. report.
Admission I don’t know what is portage mean.
at the moments I have 3 options keep him at home, send him to school with me as a one to one ( I can only stay for one hour sometimes and my husband can’t do it) or change school. I think I will do that, there is places in various school next to my house. I don’t want to send him to a school where they already unlawfully excluding him or telling me they are calling social services.

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Chilena2022 · 21/09/2022 23:08

the local authority is in london and I don’t have no. one to come with me.

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Thatsnotmycar · 21/09/2022 23:09

Not having a diagnosis doesn’t change things, support in schools is based on needs rather than diagnosis.

There is a forth option - not letting the school continue to illegally exclude DS. I agree with hiredandsqueak, changing schools now isn't the right path.

hiredandsqueak · 21/09/2022 23:20

OP please contact IPSEA first thing tomorrow. So you have a speech therapy report and a paediatric referral they are both evidence so all good there. Did your child attend nursery or a childminder previously? If so ask them for the records they kept. Did they send home reports? That is useful evidence as well. You have to stay strong, let the law work for you.
Start a formal complaint tomorrow address to the HT write that your child is being unlawfully excluded and that unless they supply the exclusion letters you will be bringing child to school and making a disability discrimination complaint if they prevent him attending. Copy in the letter to the SEND/ Inclusion team at the Local Authority.

Chilena2022 · 21/09/2022 23:22

Thatsnotmycar · 21/09/2022 22:59

I think you are being very generous. HTs don’t illegally exclude a pupil when they have the best interests of the pupil at heart. Neither do they threaten to off roll whilst the pupil being illegally excluded as that would be unlawful.

In many areas Portage won’t get involved now DC has started school.

this school is only one form and is very popular i
dont think the HT cares so much about my son that is Sen. It is better to have a child without special needs, they don’t need to provide one to one or apply for EHCP plan.
I know I am a difficult mum but they can’t ask me to be the one to one of my son until they get the funding , or send him home without exclusion letter. and I having problems to have everything in writing, they are refusing to communicate by email with me. They are lying. Senco told me that i need to be his one to one until they get funding and then in the email only for a week.
I complained to the exclusion officer and they said to her my son has a TA already but she was sick before starting the job.
I think they want to remove my son from register in case I move him school before the 4/10 and they loose his funding and they can find another child to move to the school.

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Chilena2022 · 21/09/2022 23:25

hiredandsqueak · 21/09/2022 23:20

OP please contact IPSEA first thing tomorrow. So you have a speech therapy report and a paediatric referral they are both evidence so all good there. Did your child attend nursery or a childminder previously? If so ask them for the records they kept. Did they send home reports? That is useful evidence as well. You have to stay strong, let the law work for you.
Start a formal complaint tomorrow address to the HT write that your child is being unlawfully excluded and that unless they supply the exclusion letters you will be bringing child to school and making a disability discrimination complaint if they prevent him attending. Copy in the letter to the SEND/ Inclusion team at the Local Authority.

i don’t have any report yet, the first visit to paediatric is next month and I am waiting fir the report for speech therapy.

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hiredandsqueak · 21/09/2022 23:27

You are completely right in your assessment of what is happening and it stinks. I'm bloody minded and would slog it out but understand you might not feel up to it. Please speak to IPSEA before you do anything though or SOSSEN or even SENDIAS they are better in some areas than others.

hiredandsqueak · 21/09/2022 23:30

Do you have a letter confirming you have an appointment or a card confirming attendance at SALT assessment that will be a start. Nothing happens quickly by the time the LA look at your request you will have the report and will have seen a paediatrician you can send copies then.

DoubleShotEspresso · 21/09/2022 23:49

OP this is appalling, unlawful and discriminatory practice.

The veiled threats from the HT are wholly unacceptable.

Be sure to summarise all these statements/conversations in writing, directing them to your LA Inclusion/Head of SEND.

Removing any child from a school roll is nit a process which may be actioned at a moments notice, neither can you be compelled to act as an unpaid and unqualified 1:1. This is shocking .

Raise all you have here with your LA and don't attend any meetings unaccompanied.

This requires urgent attention and support from somebody with a knowledge of the system. Which area of London are you in please?

Thatsnotmycar · 22/09/2022 10:23

My post you quoted was in reply to schooladmission’s post, I don’t know why it didn’t quote their post.

You don’t need to provide 1:1 or allow the school to continue to illegally exclude DS or off roll him unlawfully. You can apply for an EHCNA yourself.

If the school won’t reply to emails that doesn’t matter, you can send summaries of verbal conversations, add a line asking them to correct anything they disagree with, then if they don’t reply you still have a paper trail as evidence.

Moving schools now may not be a good idea. There’s no guarantee another school will be better, even if they say all the right things prior to starting. And as difficult as it is to deal with the current school are providing you with evidence for an EHCP.

LIZS · 22/09/2022 10:25

Sounds like an illegal exclusion. Try Ipsea or Parent Partnership for advice as to how to draft a letter complaining.

Takeachance18 · 22/09/2022 10:47

Even with an EHCP the school have to fund the first £6000, so waiting to get the LA to fund is not very helpful. You should be able to get to Feb half term/Easter with that amount for 1:1.

Good luck

hiredandsqueak · 22/09/2022 11:03

@Takeachance18 This blog post debunks the notional funding myth. You should share it with any schools and LAs that quote it.

Takeachance18 · 22/09/2022 11:25

hiredandsqueak · 22/09/2022 11:03

@Takeachance18 This blog post debunks the notional funding myth. You should share it with any schools and LAs that quote it.

Agree, the myth is it has to be spent to apply, that is incorrect however, certainly in our area, with an EHCP, the LA only top up the difference between the costings and the £6000 in bandings, so a school saying they don't have the budget to fund until they get LA funding is slightly skewed as they will need to find it once a child has an EHCP, unless they have a higher proportion of EHCP'S in which case they will get additional funding towards that £6000 (however this school doesn't sound like one with higher proportion of EHCP'S as they don't sound inclusive).

Thatsnotmycar · 22/09/2022 11:32

A good EHCP can be fully funded.

caffelattetogo · 22/09/2022 11:47

You could stay and try to battle it out, or you could look at moving schools. Personally I'd move schools as the fight can be long and stressful.

hiredandsqueak · 22/09/2022 11:53

Thatsnotmycar · 22/09/2022 11:32

A good EHCP can be fully funded.

Yes and as it's the LA's responsibility to wholly make the provision in the EHCPs schools should always direct the need for it to be fully funded back at the LA if they can't afford to fund the notional £6k.

Chilena2022 · 23/09/2022 09:36

At the end i was forced to agree to
bring my son just for one hour and i need to be in there as well.

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Thatsnotmycar · 23/09/2022 10:04

OP please listen to the posts here, you don’t need to be forced into only sending DS for 1 hour or to provide 1:1. The school will continue to act unlawfully if you allow them to.

BlindEye · 23/09/2022 10:13

Take them to tribunal for disability discrimination. It's the only way these schools will learn that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable.

Chilena2022 · 23/09/2022 15:21

I should not do it, but to change school takes time.

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Thatsnotmycar · 23/09/2022 15:47

You can challenge the illegal exclusion and refuse to provide 1:1 without moving school.