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SleepingStandingUp · 2021-07-14T21:10:13+00:00

Can anyone tell me roughly what you'd need to be able to do to be at expected level in PE for the end of year 1?? I've looked online but it seems all quote vague. Had school report today and he's below expected level

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MollysMummy2010 · 15/07/2021 19:34

OP is your son taught PE by his class teacher or a specialist PE teacher? I think my DD was just taught by her class teacher at that age. My DD had emerging for quite a lot back then and is now exactly where she should be. No great talent for anything but does dance, gymnastics, swimming, football and is ok at them all and is middle of the road academically. If that’s where she is happy then I am happy. Hopefully she will find her path in senior school.

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 19:36

@Purpletomato he's already had a referral to OT re dyspraxia, at this point I'm happy just focusing on the stuff she's raised and building up his core strength and dexterity

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MollysMummy2010 · 15/07/2021 19:38

How about yoga? Lots online?

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 19:41

He's not under on anything else which is massive considering his history so I'm very proud, and again, I'm not worried about his PE just wondering what the standard is. Like I know for maths what he needs to be able to do etc.

His gymnastics and dance run all over summer so he'll have that going. Lots of park dates. As long as he's healthy and happy I'm not bothered if he's top footballer or winner sports day

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Bryonyshcmyony · 15/07/2021 19:41

OP, in the nicest possible way, you say your son has poor motor skills, his stamina is not great and he's had a dyspraxia referral. Did you really think he would be exactly where he should be for physical sports development?

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 19:42

@MollysMummy2010

How about yoga? Lots online?

We did a kids one over summer, it's not a bad idea to start it again over the holidays actually.

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 19:44

@Bryonyshcmyony

OP, in the nicest possible way, you say your son has poor motor skills, his stamina is not great and he's had a dyspraxia referral. Did you really think he would be exactly where he should be for physical sports development?

I have said again and again that in not worried he's below, I'm just wondering where expected is so I can work on it gently over the summer and also cos I'm bemused at the idea of failing PE at 6. Which he doesn't know cos he thinks he's very fast and excellent dancer and I love that he thinks that. This isn't a "why is he behind" post, which I keep saying.

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MollysMummy2010 · 15/07/2021 19:49

@SleepingStandingUp mine is also rubbish so planning to do some yoga with my dd over the summer too. She had a really good school report today but also highlighted areas to work on - mainly maths - but she is eleven and a half. Your boy is so young, you have lots of time to work with him and you sound so engaged that he will be fine if actual physical problems are ruled out. Best of luck to you both.

Kobrakid · 15/07/2021 19:52

Just a thought but my dd has visual dyslexia and has to wear coloured lenses. Looking at what it entails, poor balance and coordination issues are part of it and a lot of stuff made sense after being told. She’s still a bit rubbish at catching a ball and seems a bit clumsy at times but it’s no big deal. Her teacher did mention dyspraxia when he asked about her glasses. The only problem with getting the glasses is that they cost a lot, over £200 for dds but they’ve helped a lot.

MollysMummy2010 · 15/07/2021 19:53

I meant my own core not my dd btw!

SingingInTheShithouse · 15/07/2021 20:11

@SingingInTheShithouse he's a big extra flexible in the hands but not really anywhere else. Thank you for mentioning it though

This will be why he struggles to write, it's painful for them. I'd still suggest asking your GP for an OT referral for that along, as a lot can be done to help. My DD never owned up to the pain in her hands when writing as she thought it normal, but when asked, it was clear then this was why she struggled so much to write. She was so much happier with the help that helped her get her ideas down on paper

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 20:12

Thanks @MollysMummy2010. His report has made us immeasurably proud, not a stealth brag because it's a tough road ATM but he's doing well.

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 20:14

Yes that's what we found @SingingInTheShithouse, it took ages to actually ascertain that it hurt. He's using a pencil grip now which he says takes the pain away

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Bryonyshcmyony · 15/07/2021 20:17

He hasn't "failed PE"! He's not where he should be and given all his issues it surely isn't surprising?

PE is an actual thing you know, it's assessed as well as academics are.

SingingInTheShithouse · 15/07/2021 20:18

Ah that's brilliant that you've addressed it & he has some help for it. My DD was allowed to use a keyboard p, once she could actually write well, that made a huge difference to her

Re his core strength, I'd highly recommend this, recommended by my DDs physiotherapist when she was younger. She/we still use it now & it's fantastic fir core stability & has a lower setting to start them on too

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 20:27

@Bryonyshcmyony

He hasn't "failed PE"! He's not where he should be and given all his issues it surely isn't surprising?

PE is an actual thing you know, it's assessed as well as academics are.

I have said l, repeatedly, I'm not surprised, just unsure of where the bar is for what they're meant to be able to do. And obviously it's a thing that's assessed otherwise why would I have a thread asking about it??

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SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 20:29

@SingingInTheShithouse

Ah that's brilliant that you've addressed it & he has some help for it. My DD was allowed to use a keyboard p, once she could actually write well, that made a huge difference to her

Re his core strength, I'd highly recommend this, recommended by my DDs physiotherapist when she was younger. She/we still use it now & it's fantastic fir core stability & has a lower setting to start them on too

Ah thanks. O brought like a play one from Lidl and he's not great but we should get it out in the summer and set up some fun challenges

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MollysMummy2010 · 15/07/2021 21:07

Has another thought - if you have a garden could you get a swingball? Great for coordination.

Bryonyshcmyony · 15/07/2021 22:13

If you Google pe levels for year 1 then a few charts come up which might help answer your questions, sorry I can't link

HSHorror · 15/07/2021 23:28

My dd also not met pe.
I think the pp saying it's unfit due to lockdown and food is a littlw unfair in our case. Dd has since about 6m after possible covid complained of her throat when running. She also didnt do the long race in sports day and they didnt notice. It's an issue that pe staff dont seem to have control - if they did dc would not be not meeting. (She can swim/ride/etc etc. Is probably average speed can catch and throw. But hasnt dont excurricular sport in a year and imo that is where the difference in kids is.
In contrast dc2 is good at sport and came second in the race. So it isn't parental. Dc2 just is better.
However i do think behaviour definitely makes a difference.
Could he have asthma? As the sports you list arent really running fast etc.
In some ways it makes me laugh like they think i care that she is being marked not met. Especially when its likely attitude/behaviour etc.(possible asd demand avoidance etc).

Imo it's a huge issue in primary and not just in pe that there is zero motivation. No awards that actually are for doing well. No star of the day for actual achievement.
Even dc2 got nothing at all for coming second.
Im convinced dc1 could exceed in everything but pe but is neither pushing herself nor being pushed. I

But yes it was sad to see many of her year group not able to run a lap of the field. It suggests to me even in primary some arent being made to run in pe lessons.

HSHorror · 15/07/2021 23:34

Also is he young in year? As the comparison is to potentially kids 12m older and we know that shows the eldest do better in sport.
(Dc2 is eldest so if she gets exceeding...) I doubt it though as they are not good at evidencing stuff at their school

Eatenpig · 15/07/2021 23:39

Google physical literacy. There's basic stuff they need to be able to do

Eatenpig · 15/07/2021 23:45

Physical literacy is very important. It effects their ability to do sports in future. Eg you'll never enjoy rugby or netball if you never learnt to catch a ball. It's also linked to academic performance due to ability to sit well, concentrate etc. It's hard to hold an instrument if no strength etc
If a child is below, then like any other subject, help them improve.

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/07/2021 00:22

@HSHorror

Also is he young in year? As the comparison is to potentially kids 12m older and we know that shows the eldest do better in sport. (Dc2 is eldest so if she gets exceeding...) I doubt it though as they are not good at evidencing stuff at their school

Could he have asthma? As the sports you list arent really running fast etc. Unlikely it wouldn't have been picked up but possible as he gets older. He's actually on o2 20 hours a day,he comes off for PE, dance, gymnastics etc so he Def doesn't have the stamina of other kids, but has the perseverance. So he'll stop for a bit and carry on rather than quitting. We walk a mile each way to school daily, he's alway on the move at home

He was due July so yes one of the younger ones

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/07/2021 00:23

@Eatenpig

Google physical literacy. There's basic stuff they need to be able to do

Thanks I will do, because whilst I'm not worried, o obv want to help him reach his potential

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