What's reasonable to ask?

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My kid starts reception in September and I've been asked to write what provisions I think would be needed for him before I meet with them. I know what for the areas he's behind in or needs help in. But I don't know what to put for the areas he's ahead in. He's beyond what they teach in the core subjects and could easily go straight in to an older school so I don't know what to ask of them in that respect. But I need to ask for it as he is SM so can't for himself. I think I've worded this terribly but can anyone advise or been through it before

I assume they will assess his ability during first term.
My ds was very advanced, but we didn't need to tell them, they were aware since he went to attached nursery.
When My ds started school, the teacher asked me what sort of books he was reading at home, and asked to bring them in. Also they did some sort of reading age test. For maths, they let my ds take past ks1 sats paper.

What's SM? If it's selective mutism, my ds had it too for over 2 years, but it got better during reception, and he is now a chatter box. Hope he gets better too. (Sorry if it was totally irrelevant.)

See Page 31 Section 3.5.
There are other relevant documents, but this is the one that I came across first. None of my Safer Recruitment in Education contradicts this part.

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Are they asking more about what provision they can put it for SM in personal and social needs areas, and so he can access and evidence the academic curriculum?

Perhaps looking at some 2e (twice exceptional) webpages might help. There’s also some 2e groups on Facebook

His selective mutism is just a part of his complex needs. They want to know what I think they can do to teach him. They don't have the usual resources to teach beyond what he knows in the main subjects. I don't know if asking to have someone teach him algebra while his class learn to count is feasible. Or asking him to have an online resources would be more reasonable. Just for example

That sounds very tricky. How does he learn at home? Reception is mainly learn through play, so not much of sitting down at desk and study kind of environment. If he is ready for algebra already, asking for access to the online teaching resources maybe reasonable, but I doubt they would find someone to teach him algebra in reception. If he is so advanced, I can see you need a detailed provision for him before he starts. Sorry I can't really help, but good luck with meeting.
Hope some teacher with experience of extremely advanced children would come along and answer to your question.

Some online resources, some people explaining things he's interested in, some workbooks, he's also read some of my old text books. He's never been formally taught anything though. Not even entirely sure how he learnt to read, I'm dyslexic and he can read better than me. They are looking at throughout the entire time he's there not just reception although it's already been suggested he may be able to go out of year for some lessons but I'm not sure that will help.

Go out of year would help if it's properly managed and he is sent to his right level. It didn't work for my ds. First, he was sent to 2 years ahead, but it was still too easy. Second, they couldn't maintain it due to time tabling issues. Also thing to consider is mental maturity. He maybe ok academically, but not so ok with age difference with other children. Some can be mean too, and subtly tease, which was big downside for my ds.
If your ds is already secondary level, even if they sent him to yr6 this year, what would they do next 6 years?

This school only goes up to year 2 and he doesn't even get along with kids his own age that well so I don't know if it would make it better or worse. I really don't know what to ask of them. They said they don't have a policy on it because he's their first child like this

In that case, sending him up to yr2 may not be the solution.
Reception is learn through play, children are allowed to do what they wish, unlike ks1. So, if it was me, I would concentrate on other stuff in reception like social side or other difficulty he is having, but keep in contact with school about what they can do to help him academically.
If he is so ahead, it will be the problem for long time.
When my ds started school, I wasn't concerned at all about his academic side. Like your ds, he was selective mute, never spoke to any other children for 2 years in nursery/preschool. He had difficulty all way through ks1 socially, but he was generally happy to go to school. Being sent to above years isolated him too, children notice the difference.
Anyways, during reception, I wouldn't worry too much about if he is learning algebra or not, he can do it at home, but concentrate more on getting on with other children etc. If he stays isolated, school can be a lonely place, for years.

We supplement at home with ds6 tbh. The school are catering to my sons SN but not his HLP at the mo and has been sent a year above but still too easy. I think you’ll struggle even with an EHCP.

I really hope he does get to learn as that's the only reason he wants to go to school. Do they still have those programs around where a couple kids from junior school go to senior school one afternoon a week? I remember doing that in year 6 but if it's still a thing maybe they could make an exception when he's in year one?

He will learn lots of things. Another things you need to consider is writing speed. If school was able to send him up to junior school or even senior school, can he keep up with other children's speed?

Also another thing you can ask the school is give him problem solving questions like nrich ones, rather than asking them to teach algebra in reception.

Tbh IMO reception isn’t the issue, year one is as it becomes more formal.

What is their writing speed? And he can type anyway. Algebra was just an example he happened to be talking about that day. I know he'll do great with formal teaching I just need to figure out how he can get that from school. Do you think it might be worth talking to the older school they are connected to to see if they can help in any way?

I think first port of call is your ds's infant school. They needs to liaise with other school if they decided that's what they will do. Typing in maths is tedious. Does he have difficulty writing?
I would ask the school to determine his current level at first, so they/you can start from there. Is he ok with word problems etc? Even pre-algebra word problems can be quite challenging to some children who are generally good with numbers.

I meant for if he's writing out something. He has poor vision so his writing is chunky and a bit messy

Do you have any assessment reports? I suspect they mean provision to support his complex issues - visual, mutism etc- rather than academic ability, at this stage.

Assessment from what?

His complex needs - paediatrician, salt, ot, ed psych perhaps ? Has he been at nursery or preschool, if so what strategies do they use.

OT? Multidisciplinary assessment team? Paediatrician? Hospital specialist?

Long story short no. Preschool don't do anything in the was of education for him.

What strategies do you use?