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What's reasonable to ask?

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RubiaPTA · 04/05/2018 22:10

My kid starts reception in September and I've been asked to write what provisions I think would be needed for him before I meet with them. I know what for the areas he's behind in or needs help in. But I don't know what to put for the areas he's ahead in. He's beyond what they teach in the core subjects and could easily go straight in to an older school so I don't know what to ask of them in that respect. But I need to ask for it as he is SM so can't for himself. I think I've worded this terribly but can anyone advise or been through it before

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user789653241 · 07/05/2018 20:48

When my ds started school, my ds's teacher wanted copies of all the assessment report at the meeting (salt,pead,etc) so she can get a good idea before he actually started school. Start of school was very smooth.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 07/05/2018 21:08

You can try to get referrals through GP.

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 21:11

LIZS I don't teach him

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 21:12

irvineoneohone he has none of that (yay NHS)

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 21:12

Tomorrowillbeachicken for what?

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user789653241 · 07/05/2018 21:17

My ds's medical needs are all under NHS.
So he doesn't have any specialist/consultants for his needs? How did you get diagnosis?

LIZS · 07/05/2018 21:17

You may not overtly teach him but you presumably find ways to encourage him to speak, help him see and follow what is happening, keep his interest and so on.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 07/05/2018 21:32

Help with his SM.

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 21:33

He only got 2 actual diagnosis when he was 2 (unless you count the laundry list of allergies). 1 a year later they realised was wrong and after doing all their possible tests have referred him to a hospital hours away. The other he hasn't seen since. He's been continuously refered since birth to all these support/therapy services but he's yet to be seen by most of them. Oh and we've been waiting over a year on genetics testing and hearing department. Yay NHS

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 21:35

LIZS yeah, I said I knew what to ask of them for where he's behind.

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LIZS · 07/05/2018 21:37

If his vision is poor presumably he has prescribed glasses from an optician or ophthalmologist - is there anything you can get in writing about that and what you/school can do to help.

Pressuredrip · 07/05/2018 21:45

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but what you have said I'm assuming he is being investigated for autism, with the selective mutism and savant abilities? Is mainstream infant school really going to benefit him? I don't think it will at all, but probably easier for the diagnostic process. In the meantime I suggest you join home ed groups for advice. School may be helpful to encourage him to speak, but it also could he quite traumatic for him, I'd be ready to deregisrer if he becomes emotionally distressed.

Bezm · 07/05/2018 21:48

You need to get him into school in September then take things from there. Moving children into much higher age classes can be very harmful for their emotional development. You say he is SM, who diagnosed this? How do you know he is very bright if he hasn't been assessed?
If he's 4, why has he not yet seen any professionals who you say he has been referred to?

TheIsland · 07/05/2018 21:53

Does he go to any sports or clubs during the week? It might be worth asking staff there what to suggest a additional support as they will be used to working with him in a group setting.

user789653241 · 07/05/2018 21:54

Sounds like my ds. He has bunch of allergies too. Our hospital is hours away too, but having a specialist makes so much difference. Also larger hospital has more opportunities to be referred to other specialist within the hospital in our case.(He had one consultant at the start, now he has 3.)
We also went to the courses for children with social difficulties held by local children's centre, and it opened up lots of doors for help. Do your area have some of those?

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 22:11

@Pressuredrip honestly if I had the resources I'd keep him home and send him to a tutor once a week but mainstream school is the only option right now

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 22:18

@Bezm he read Alice in Wonderland and did long division for fun this morning...

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user789653241 · 07/05/2018 22:19

If he is eager to learn, I would let him get on with it at home using online courses( or tutor), rather than expecting school to do it for him.Then you can concentrate on his social/emotional/physical side at school. I think those development is more important in early years than academics. And it's actually better than expecting school to teach him, imo. There are many high quality teaching site online, especially maths.
Try Khanacademy and AoPS for maths.

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 22:23

@irvineoneohone unfortunately our children's centre flooded a few years back and basically died :/

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user789653241 · 07/05/2018 22:36

Op, reading Alice in wonderland or doing long division doesn't assure you he would be great at school.
Can he comprehend the story well? Infer the context? Use the vocabulary in his writing?
Does he able to answer the problem written as a word problems in maths? Those are the things they teach at school.
My ds was very similar, can read any words in front of him, or got all four operations, decimals, fractions, etc instinctively. But he had weakness too, which he needed to work on.

ToDuk · 07/05/2018 22:38

You mentioned his hearing upthread. Has he had a recent hearing test? If not that's one thing that is easily resolved. Ask your GP to refer you to audiology.

With regard to his learning needs try to see the school as partners with you. Let him start school and settle in and take it from there. Don't worry too much about what they will or won't be teaching him in the first term... mostly they will be focussing on settling in, playing, learning routines and social skills. I'm sure all of this will be good for him.

user789653241 · 07/05/2018 22:44

I really hope your school can help your ds. Sounds like you have been let down massively. We were really lucky, everything seemed to worked well, starting from 2 year check up at GP and nursery manager being so helpful.
Is he happy at nursery? My ds's nursery manager suggested he went full time(6 hrs/5days) so we did. He wasn't talking, but very happy child. Exposure did help a lot.

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 23:33

He's never has a hearing test. I personally don't think there's anything wrong I just think he ignores alot

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RubiaPTA · 07/05/2018 23:51

He hates nursery. I think he just sees it as a punishment and they don't really understand how to communicate with him

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ToDuk · 08/05/2018 05:53

Please take him for a hearing test. It may be absolutely nothing or it may be significant but it is easily checked. If he appears to ignore a lot it could easily be because he struggles to hear and just a witches off. I've seen so many children do this.
From your Yay nhs comment I assumed you had at least tried to do this.

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