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Would you find it unusual that there are no SATs result (for year 6) that are above expected attaintment?

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FlashTheSloth · 05/02/2018 20:41

A little while ago there was an article in the local paper about primary schools and how they rated, this wasn't based on OFSTED but took into account a wide range of issues and came back with a score that then ranked the schools. I remember reading the same last year.

For the last 2 years, my DCs primary school has had NO SATs results that were above expected. So not a single child in year 6 in 2 years achieved above the expected level. That seems surprising to me. The Year 6 teacher is also a fantastic teacher, but not competitive in any way so wouldn't be interested in pushing any children 'up,' in fact the school in general has an air of 'as long as everyone is in the middle then that's good.'

DS is having 11+ tutoring, and he really enjoys it. It's because he is being challenged and school doesn't challenge him as it's all about middle attainment. His Year 5 teacher told me that's why he would enjoy it, and its true. DS and a small group have always been a group at the top of the class so I stuggle to see how they are the ones that are at expected levels, not exceeding. DS is feeling very fed and frustrated at school at the moment.

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CappuccinoCake · 08/02/2018 12:10

Pineapple- no the govt has now set expected levels all through primary. So a child can go through never meeting "expected" as it isn't expected for them personally it's a national standard.

Whole thing is crackers.

littleducks · 08/02/2018 12:19

Dd took SATS last year and recwives a working at greater depth for writing grade and we were told the grade boundaries would be published later (so once they were in secondary) for the other tests.

I did at one point try to find out. But now have forgotten her scores Blush so can't check even if from link mrz shared it is available now.

EsmeMargaretNoteSpelling · 08/02/2018 20:05

The grade boundary greater depth for maths last worked out at 86.3%. Can’t remember for GAPS or reading!

Feenie · 08/02/2018 20:35

Ds1 scored 120 x3 in his SATs last year. He was marked as "expected" in reading and mathematics and "greater depth" in writing based on some supplimentary work his teacher had assessed.

Teachers may only teacher assess at greater depth for writing, which is entirely teacher assessment. Any other subjects can only be assessed as expected or not expected for teacher assessment and any other greater depth award must come from a test.

Feenie · 08/02/2018 20:36

Oh, and from next year, reading and maths teacher assessment will be done away with altogether. Test result only.

Mishappening · 08/02/2018 20:39

None if this stuff makes any sense; and if you have a good teacher and happy children, as you are implying, then I should use the paper to light the fire with!

FlashTheSloth · 08/02/2018 21:01

It all sounds a bit complicated and pointless. So a child who is nearer the middle, they can be expected, the same as a child who is flying through and top at everything getting maximum scores. What a pointless exercise. Bring back the old levels with numbers and letters! At least you can see if they have achieved well or not.

And DS did struggle more at the beginning of his tutoring. His tutor wouldn't say it for the sake of it. He has improved massively and his tutor is very impressed with his progress. I've always felt the school haven't pushed DS to his potential and I was right. He much prefers tutoring to school because it challenges him and he is thriving on that.

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