Our primary school says if children need medicine at specific times 'pop' in & DIY

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Surely this penalises busy working parents, with occupations where they can't just 'pop' in? Or a parent who simply has other pressing commitments..

Can schools actually do this? They seem to be negating their responsibilities towards providing education and support for children with long term medical conditions that require regular medication.

Because it would not be very informative. I wanted teachers/other school staff/governess to reply. So parents know what they are dealing with when advocating for their children. I wanted people to know what other parents in this pretty stressful situation have to deal with.

What they are dealing with is people not obliged to provide medical care. Which part of that do you not understand?

is a first time poster who has only ever commented on their own angsty 'people be fuming' thread.

I have been posting for years. I am a name changer. Over the years these kinds of threads have been very useful for me in terms of advocating for my child.

I really doubt that comment. Child who has long term health conditions most likely to have HCP, to ensure the child's well being, unless there are other back stories.

What they are dealing with is people not obliged to provide medical care. Which part of that do you not understand?

It's not a case of not understanding - that is simply incorrect in terms of the school as a whole. All schools have nominated first aiders (unless things have changed since I last worked in one).

First aiders aren’t obliged to give medicine though

My comment was true irvine but you can doubt all you like. This thread is not about me. My child is doing very well, thank you. This thread, though, is about whether the school in question are being correct to tell parents to 'pop' in to administer medication which needs to be taken at specific times.

If you have no issue with school regarding your children, just leave the school alone. You maybe causing ill effects to others who actually need school's help and have great working relationships already.

zzzz I added and any parent with other pressing commitments in my initial post.

This is a big issue for parents who do need to work, though, because this type of treatments causes huge barriers to them seeking and keeping employment. It means children with long term medical conditions are further disadvantaged by the poverty this causes.

If you have no issue with school regarding your children, just leave the school alone. You maybe causing ill effects to others who actually need school's help and have great working relationships already.

And how would a thread on Mumsnet do that?

Oh, so you are just having discussion on MN and not intending to do anything in RL?. Then that's fine I suppose.

Oh, so you are just having discussion on MN and not intending to do anything in RL?. Then that's fine I suppose.

irvine, why are you so concerned I don't do anything in real life about this? What are you frightened of? And don't you see that there is an injustice here?

Frightened?

Get a grip, OP, you're beginning to sound ridiculous.

Like I said, my child needs meds in emergencies and school have no problem about it. But someone like you causing big issue at my school may cause refusal of any staff giving him meds when needed, could cause deaths in worst case scenario. And there will not be enough time for school to call me to pop in.
That's what I am concerned about. You said it's not about your children, so you wouldn't understand.

Kaya, my comment to irvine because her posts made it clear she was keen for me to do nothing about this in real life. A concern which baffled me, quite frankly.

But someone like you causing big issue at my school may cause refusal of any staff giving him meds when needed, could cause deaths in worst case scenario.

Is not this a precarious position to be put in? Do you think it is right, irvine? Should schools provision for the welfare and education of the pupils in their care be dependent on parents being deferential? Should lives be lost when parents aren't?

Sigh.
If there is an issue in YOUR school then raise your concerns appropriately abd in line with the school's complaints policy

But don't try to whip some mass conspiracy and plead gaslighting and discrimination.

And we've got parents being deferential.

OP is going to have a full house on 'i'm pissed off at a school' bingo at this rate.

But don't try to whip some mass conspiracy and plead gaslighting and discrimination

I am not whipping up anything that is not already there. The facts speak for themselves. Schools are confident enough to publish a newsletter which tells parents to come in to administer medicines if they need to be taken at specific times. Yet the statutory guidelines says they should not be doing this and putting up barriers which prevent children with long term medical conditions attending school is discrimination. That is a form of gaslighting as the newsletter is disingenuous. This needs to be brought to light. Mumsnet is just one way of doing this.

But the children with long term conditions will already have the care plans in place therefore the parents will be able to read it and quickly realise that is a general statement which doesn’t apply in their specific circumstances

"Schools are confident enough to publish a newsletter"

Are you talking about one specific school or are there more than one?
If it's only one school, you should deal with that school. Most school do fine without your help.

Guidelines, not a legal requirement.

But the children with long term conditions will already have the care plans in place therefore the parents will be able to read it and quickly realise that is a general statement which doesn’t apply in their specific circumstances

Why have a newsletter which ignores this? Or one which conflicts with school policy? What about children who are waiting for an ECHP to come through? Those recently diagnosed? those whose attendance has been blighted by a series of infections that require antibiotics that need to be taken during school time at specific times?

A care plan and a EHCP are different.

Basically this is aimed at the majority not the minority who will know it doesn’t mean them and even if they are in doubt a quick “I assume the plans for x still apply” is all that is needed.

Lots in the newsletters doesn’t apply to us so I just read on.