Our primary school says if children need medicine at specific times 'pop' in & DIY

[wonkywillow]

Surely this penalises busy working parents, with occupations where they can't just 'pop' in? Or a parent who simply has other pressing commitments..

Can schools actually do this? They seem to be negating their responsibilities towards providing education and support for children with long term medical conditions that require regular medication.

OP you do realise that there are some 24,372 schools in the U.K.

Yes. I know the survey is relatively small but any one school with no proper medical policy is one too many.

And assuming/suggesting that less than one per cent is representative of all schools is irresponsible.

Let me put it this way. My ds has HCP for his medical needs at his school. I am very happy about how they handle his needs. So, from my experience, I should be advocating for any special needs at my ds's and all the other school in UK. I must be right, OP? Because of my very limited experience at my ds's school. After all, that's what you are saying, OP.
You may have had bad experience in regards to your dc's needs. But it doesn't justify you to speak about how other school handle the different needs of other children, or even how your school handle the needs of children you have no clue about.

I did.
It is a small proportion of schools.
Any school not doing what it should be is one too many. It could be for a variety of reasons, but it is still too many.

However, that still doesn't justify sweping generalisations and bringing in endless odd pieces of ammunition to try anr bavk up whatever your latest argument is. You start all this is unfair to working parents nd now we've ended up at but look at this mumsnet campaign having had a detour via gaslighting and your opinion on unioj guidance and job desriptions of teachers. One minute you're having a pop at teachers for not doing it. The next you're saying you don"% care who does what.
It is incoherent nonsense.

irvine,

You may have had bad experience in regards to your dc's needs. But it doesn't justify you to speak about how other school handle the different needs of other children, or even how your school handle the needs of children you have no clue about.

This is why I have put my view point up for discussion. Some people have agreed with my posts. Some people have not.

The charities included in the news article are investigating these issues and the related Mumsnet petition, I linked to, calls for regulatory bodies to ensure schools follow the law. No more, no less.

This is a really big issue in the UK as the campaign highlights. It is a problem and as wonky says, serious charities are lending their support. They are not doing that on the basis of wonky's schools newsletter. Children with my DC's conditions die in school care because their care plans are inadequately followed or not in place. They also miss a lot of school and are illegal excluded from extracurricular events. It happens. As I said upthread, it's much clearer cut what SHOULD happen (but often doesn't) for children who require a individual health care plan but to me it's symptomatic of the same issue - nobody wants to take responsibility for children, beyond covering curriculum, whilst they are at school.

But they do, in some schools. Saying "nobody wants to take responsibility for children beyond covering curriculum, whilst they are at school. " is simply not true.

t1mum3
I support the MN campaign. I think where there are issues they need raising and taking up with schools.

The OP has been advised multiple times to seek clarificationor guidance from her school and each time she says she has zero intention of doing that. All very spout hot air online.

My issue is that the OP just jumps around whatever issue she think will get support so we've had newsletter discriminates against working parents, schools gaslight, school are failing, thrn schools aren't following care plans, theb teachers should be doing it, then bringing uo action short of strike, then when challenged suddenly it doesn't matter who does it, then mumsnet campaign.

It's all a bit incoherent and more about them justifying being annoyed at a newsletter

Put it this way, at school this week i felt a situatiom wasn't good for some of my students. I was in with SLT raising it, not bitchinh on mumsnet making generalisations about what SLT are like.

zzzzz

Here is the reply to the petition:

www.change.org/p/raise-awareness-that-every-school-has-to-by-law-have-a-medical-needs-policy-implemented/u/22130474

This is the latest update:

www.change.org/p/raise-awareness-that-every-school-has-to-by-law-have-a-medical-needs-policy-implemented/u/22236727

From the article, some of the charities involved:

"The Alliance, a coalition of more than 30 charities and health organisations including Diabetes UK, Asthma UK and Crohn’s and Colitis UK, said that without such policies, staff may not know how to properly care for such children."

(www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/thousands-children-at-risk-dying-10111607)

But the thing is, your knowledge is all from articles online etc, you have no RL knowledge of the issue. Do you actually know any real school which are not following the guidelines or real people having difficulty regarding medical needs with school?

irvine no one currently, no. I have not been out much recently. But that is not a requirement of Mumsnet. We are allowed to have a discussion on here without direct personal knowledge.

At least you can emails HT and clarify the situation at your dc's school though.

irvine, yes. I'll pick my moment, though. It might be outing as there are undoubtedly Mumsnetters at the school. They might have already picked up on this. I might find a way to find out from their medical policy and other parents, less directly. There are forum events too etc.

So, zzzzz? Maybe I don't want to be linked to a somewhat antagonistic thread? I don't want to encounter some of the attitudes I have encountered here at school. The stakes are much higher.

I can say the same things in person. I just would pick the right moment, that is all.

I don't want to encounter some of the attitudes I have encountered here at school. The stakes are much higher.
Annd back to poor you again.

If you were reasonable in person and raised concerns, it would be highly unlikely you'd get the attitudes you've had on here.

You've had attitudes on here because you've gone from 'here is a newsletter which clearly discriminates against working parents' to a whole range of pick and mix issues (often with ridiculous generalisations and assertions) which you drop in in a silly a attempt to try and make your incoherent ramblings sounds like a coherent or sensible issue.

As many peoplr have said many times on this thread, if you have an issue, speak to school.
Just you've dismissed that and are now trying to play the potential victim again all well i couldn't feel it's safe yo ever speak to a school because there be mean teachers who are horrible because they called me out on bullshit.
... a bit daft for someone who earlier in tue thread was bragging and being smug about how they felt their actions were responsible for staff leaving their jobs.

But then again nothing from the OP makes any sense.

Maisy, maybe because of my past experiences with that school, I might like to tread carefully. The issues I had, personally then, have been resolved. Things are settled now but this was not easily achieved. I certainly experienced closing of ranks and obstructiveness. I am right not to trust them entirely.