Our primary school says if children need medicine at specific times 'pop' in & DIY

[wonkywillow]

Surely this penalises busy working parents, with occupations where they can't just 'pop' in? Or a parent who simply has other pressing commitments..

Can schools actually do this? They seem to be negating their responsibilities towards providing education and support for children with long term medical conditions that require regular medication.

I am under no impression, zzzzz.

Me - But don't try to whip some mass conspiracy and plead gaslighting and discrimination

OP - I am not whipping up anything that is not already there. The facts speak for themselves. Schools are confident enough to publish a newsletter which tells parents to come in to administer medicines if they need to be taken at specific times.

Not whipping up anything?
Course not

You've read a newsletter and then for whatever reason have dubbed yourself some one woman keyboard warrior against a whole system you clearly know very little about.

A range of posters on here (teachers and parents) have pointed this out to you and yet you're still creating some odd little incoherent victim narrative.

I give up. I can’t understand WHAT you are on about???
You, me and many of the posters on this thread.

In a nutshell, OP read something in a newsletter and has decided she knows more about schools and medication than anyonr else so has decided working parents are being discriminated against, schools are gaslighting and one newsletter in her school allows her to extrapolate to a whole (incredibly varied!) education system.
It's incoherent nonsense.

As i mentioned at the start of the thread, of she has an issue with the procedures in that school or needs clarification then she should absolutely raise it with the school.

Anything beyond that is hysterical rambling with the vague attempt to sound like some kind of online warrior saving oppressed working parents from an education system which gaslights them.

I'm afraid we've all been wasting our time with a Goady Fucker.

hysterical

Great choice of words in order to try and silence me. Interesting history, that term. Here:

"Hysteria has been linked with women in a number of unflattering ways. Its vast, shifting repertoire of symptoms reminded some doctors of the lability and capriciousness they associated with female nature. "Mutability is characteristic of hysteria because it is characteristic of women," wrote the Victorian physician Edward Tilt. "'La donna è mobile .'"[3] Doctors have tended to favor arguments from biology that link hysteria with femaleness: "Women are prone to hysteria because of something fundamental in their nature, something innate, fixed or
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given that obviously requires interaction with environmental force"*^

https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft0p3003d3&chunk.id=d0e14039

Now, as ever, accusations of 'hysteria' are used in an attempt to silence women. Currently because they dare to suggest they might have other things to do than be continually available to 'pop' in on demand to effectively apply a sticking plaster over shortfalls in school provision. Nothing changes...

I'm surprised the word 'shrill' has not been used yet...

Now, as ever, accusations of 'hysteria' are used in an attempt to silence women.

In this case just one woman who has lost the plot. Give up, OP. We're on to you.

You know as I typed that I just KNEW you'd go there. It's another card for why you're a poor oppressed person story.

Hysteria, whilst having it's roots in sexist medical diagnosing of women, is commonly used for it's actual commom definition.

hysteria

hɪˈstɪərɪə/

noun

1.exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion or excitement.

"the anti-Semitic hysteria of the 1890s"

synonyms:frenzy,wildness,feverishness,irrationality;More

2.an old-fashioned term for a psychological disorder characterized by conversion of psychological stress into physical symptoms (somatization) or a change in self-awareness (such as a fugue state or selective amnesia).

Of course you would be entirely aware that semantic shifts happen over time and common usage shifts. Alas, that wouldn't suit your one woman crusade story though.

I'm afraid we've all been wasting our time with a Goady Fucker
Completely. There's no desire for advice. They have an agenda and a spectaular lack of knowledhe about education and the longer this thread goes on, the more they show themselves up.

Anyway I've debated doing this for a while on the thread but @GlassesOn on another thread is a bloody awesoke example of a parent who had a situation where a member of staff handled a situation badly. GlassesOn has been reasonable, objective, sought to get a resolution, listened to advice ajd guidance from a range of people and hopefully will be back with an update from her meeting with the head.
If you actually do have an issue with the school then read her posts and learn from them. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3152244-School-want-a-letter-of-apology?pg=1&order=

I expect you won't though. After all, that would be way too sensible, rational, productive and reasonable. It's way more fun to be fuming on the internet.

There are several posters on this thread whom have agreed with the points I have made. Are you accusing them of 'hysteria' too?

Who, not “whom”

Are you accusing them of 'hysteria' too?
If they say 'at my school i had this situation'? No of course not. That would be ludicrous.

If they say 'this happened in my school and clearly the entire system is failing and it'w happening everywhere and schools don't care and I'm using mumsnet to shine a light on all this discrimination and gaslighting which is obviously going on' then of course I'd consider that hysterical... because it would be.

If you have an issue with your school, follow procedures and raise it like a sensible and rational human being.

If you just want to fume away creating conspiracy stories and look daft online then fine, but don't pretend it's some sort of one woman campaign to save a whole system you clearly know little about.

So? My mistakes in grammar have no bearing upon the issues at hand. They are irrelevant. It would seem you really are grasping at straws now in an attempt to invalidate what I have been saying.

Ah, well. I can satisfy myself with the fact that it is apparent that the 'teachers' on this thread are either working to a much reduced timetable, are unemployed or retired...

Bingo! I win 😄

Well, that begs the question as to why you'd entrust your child to their care at all, then.

I didn't, I was visiting the school in a professional capacity and there was a child in the reception area having a serious episode and the staff with him hadn't got a clue what to do - the child was telling them what they had to do.

My own children are at schools with excellent medical policies.

wonkywillow
Gosh you know so much about our working habits too. Eeh dear me OP. You know it all don't you.

Can only speak for myself but I have been out of school off site this afternoon at a cross school meeting so we took a shorter lunch and got done at 3pm because some staff usually do their own children's pickups (work close to home / part timers who usually do half days). Rather than drive to school for 3:30 my school (like reasonable employers) were quite happy for me to drive the 5 mins home as they understand I've already done 2 nights of unpaid revision classes and get the principle of give and take.

But hey, you know it all OP. Keep enlightening us with your wisdom.

Can only speak for myself but I have been out of school off site this afternoon at a cross school meeting

I'm surprised they can spare you......

brixzle so you don’t know if the parents had fully informed the school of the condition? You don’t know if the staff had proper training on how to respond? Basically you know nothing than a snapshot with no background

Statutory requirements and law cannot be ignited in favour of whims and even the understanding of pressures schools are under with funding and staff retention.

A child with a long term medical condition has a right alongside their peers to receive a FT education. What this looks likes and how is achieved can be discussed and agreed with the la.

But if a school won't take a child because (for example they have diabetes) and staff refuse to check BM, administer insulin or use a pump - then the la and school must liaise and find an alternative solution. That may be school nurse or alternative placement.

A school cannot just send out a newsletter saying if a parent what's their child to have medication they are free to come and administer it.

I've not read all the posts today. But I stand by what I posted yesterday - wonky needs to ask the school to clarify its position and raise it with the relative authorities of necessary.

If the school is talking about paracetamol or AB for short term illness then they should clarify this and parents can show the La/ewo if their child's absense is questioned because they've had to remain off school for extended periods of time.

No, actually what I was doing was trying to get you to stop taking yourself so seriously but I can see that’s too tall an order.

I'm surprised they can spare you......

Eh? You seem a more than a little bizarre now.

You had a pop at people's working patterns and hours and then resort to weird replies when a reasonable explanation is given. You don't like reasonable replies from posters who don't agree with you though. Somewht ruins the goadyfuckery potential.

How dare I not be teaching for a full 40 minutes at lunch - that must definitely mean I'm on a reduced timetable.

It usually does mean a poster is clutching at straws, though.

I am not sure why the OP is getting such a hard time, her point seems perfectly reasonable to me. Schools cannot and should not discriminate against children who have additional needs and/or who may require short or long term medication. Telling a parent to 'pop' in is worryingly blase about inclusiveness and I think the OP is right to raise this with the HT.

I also think the OP is right to fight her child's corner at every turn. You have to be a lioness for your own child. As is apparent on this thread, many look to do the bare minimum, if they can get away with it. It should not have to be a battle to meet a child's needs, but sadly it too often is.

Feenie don't you know you should be teaching from 8.50 - 3.15, including right through all breaks? 😉