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Our primary school says if children need medicine at specific times 'pop' in & DIY

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wonkywillow · 30/01/2018 14:13

Surely this penalises busy working parents, with occupations where they can't just 'pop' in? Or a parent who simply has other pressing commitments..

Can schools actually do this? They seem to be negating their responsibilities towards providing education and support for children with long term medical conditions that require regular medication.

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zzzzz · 31/01/2018 12:22

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Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 12:29

The solution is the school administer it clearly. What other solution is there?

zzzzz · 31/01/2018 12:35

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Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 12:35

Employ someone.

Don’t tell me- no money

Which was my point

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Feenie · 31/01/2018 12:38

Head teachers from 5,500 schools across England have signed a joint letter to Chancellor Philip Hammond warning of "chronic" funding shortages.

They're actual headteachers, in charge of actual school budgets. Fact.

wonkywillow · 31/01/2018 12:40

Whinberry , Op is not talking about those meds.

I am indeed very much talking about those meds irvine ! I have talked about them in my posts. As if I'd really be bothered about a bit of Calpol! Anti-biotics might be an issue medium term for some children (for recurrent kidney infections for example) if there is a medical requirement they take them in school time. Which is why I have not only been talking about children who have a long term condition.

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CornwallLass · 31/01/2018 12:41

It might be worth checking back to the Statutory Guidance on Supporting Children at School with Medical Conditions.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/supporting-pupils-at-school-with-medical-conditions--3#history as it answers most of the question being raised.
It is very clear it relates to ongoing conditions, although there is a nod to parents wanting schools to administer temporary prescription medication.
The document contains statutory guidance (which schools have to follow) and non-statutory guidance (as best practice).
Interestingly, the responsibility rests mostly with the governors to ensure things happen.

Feenie · 31/01/2018 12:43

None of my teachers would have a clue what the school budgets was and didn’t have the skills to make meaningful decisions based on it anyway. It’s sorely missing in schools and people should be aware of that.

It's sorely missing in the two schools you turn up to.

How are they 'your teachers' - you apparently don't work in a school.

wonkywillow · 31/01/2018 12:44

I’m aghast that you imagine this is a rare or unusual solution

Sadly, I don't imagine this. I know it is neither rare nor unusual.

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wonkywillow · 31/01/2018 12:48

Interestingly, the responsibility rests mostly with the governors to ensure things happen.

Hmm. Yes, I think it is underestimated, sometimes, how much power governors have.

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wonkywillow · 31/01/2018 12:52

Who are you quoting there, zzzzz?

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Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 12:53

Yes feenie. And my point was, from the beginning, that none of my headteachers have a decent financial awareness.

Both schools were and are massively UNDER spent and have been for years whilst the headteachers gave the impression the schools were on the breadline.

None of them have had the skills i would expect as a minimum for budget holders in my day job.

They outsource the finance service and the service they receive is hideously poor, and they cant recognise that either.

And I’ve had a rotation of the best heads in the county.

Also, as head of finance committee I am responsible for those finances. The headteachers report them to me. Which is how I know how poor their understanding is.
I’m not saying this is their fault- it’s complex and it’s not their area of expertise. But this should be recognised

Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 12:55

Be interesting to know how you get it in your school Feenie- how do you employ a management accountant when you can’t afford resource to provide basic care to pupils?

Feenie · 31/01/2018 12:56

one of my headteachers have a decent financial awareness.

You mean the TWO headteachers who are not yours and work at schools where apparently you don't. Hmm

Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 12:57

That’s none, not one. And as I’ve said, from the beginning, I have been govorner and head of finance committee

Im not sure why you keep missing that

Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 12:58

And it’s not 2 headteachers, it’s two SCHOOLS.

Feenie · 31/01/2018 13:00

We employ someone who administers medicine and carries out certain medical procedures. We were lucky enough to find someone willing to do this for a pittance - schools are struggling to find staff (that's also a fact, btw). He is trained, but not medically trained, and should there be any litigious hoo-hah, I imagine he'd be off.

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wonkywillow · 31/01/2018 13:01

To be honest this thread is a bit baffling

Why?

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Feenie · 31/01/2018 13:02

How many headteachers do the two schools have then, cherry? For the same of your tedious argument.

Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 13:05

I’m well aware schools are struggling to find staff. Believe me, we’ve had enough problems getting teachers in front of students.

Plenty of money to pay them though.

Cherrycokewinning · 31/01/2018 13:07

The most recent has been a different one each term sadly. All very successful in their own schools. All with very low levels of financial understanding.

You’re the one arguing. I have asked how you know your school has no money.

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