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In Yr2 kids same sex relationships lessons

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yasminluv · 25/01/2018 21:50

Hi
In Year 2 they have a day where kids learn about samesex relationships
It’s after Easter apperantly is that nationally and is every school different

If this to happen How can I as a parent address this with the teacher the fact that I don’t want him to participate

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Blackteadrinker77 · 25/01/2018 22:59

By 10 he could be holding hands or kissing other boys and think his Mu and Dad will hate him for it.

Ihatepompoussoccermums · 25/01/2018 22:59

Me to @namechanger124. I dont see why they need a day for this. Maybe it’s to over compensate the fact that lgbt 🏳️‍🌈 community has been stereotyped for so many years, even though by setting a day is also technically stereotyping 🤔 I am and atheist, I just don’t understand why people are following rules or guidelines on a perception of how to live by a book written many years ago. Just because one man said a man and women must be together. Who knows what happened all them years ago, maybe Jesus was gay, but people didn’t want to believe it because the bible says a man and women need to be together. When I was younger my uncle was like my best friend, he took me everywhere. When I found out he was gay aged 13 they first thing I thought about was ‘yes we can check out guys together’ we still do now. My friends were upset because they fancied him and thought they actually had a chance 😂 my daughter absolutely loves him and his husband who she also called uncle. She doesn’t quite understand but she will know when she’s older that it’s okay because her uncles are together. I have several gay friends too. To me their personality’s never change just the preference of the opposite sex. In my opinion they are more down to earth and have an amazing sense of humour than most straight people I know. I have no issues with people against it as long as it doesn’t result in bullying or violence. Every one has their opinion. One of my guy friends says he doesn’t mind it, he just doesn’t want it shoved in his face. Which is fair enough. @yasminluv shouldn’t be getting accused of being homophobic when frankly all she said was she doesn’t want her son to know about it which is her choice.

Blackteadrinker77 · 25/01/2018 22:59

Mum *

bostonkremekrazy · 25/01/2018 22:59

ScaryMary81 - compulsory really? Muslim children were forced to learn about homosexuality? How many parents complied with that? Hmm

Aeroflotgirl · 25/01/2018 22:59

I think he is beginning to understand a bit, and asks about different relatives in photos and how they are related (grandparents, aunties, mum and dad). No I would not mind him having a lesson about different kinds of relationships, but he just would not be interested, and would propbably ask when lunch is, or can he go out to play now.

Itsthattimeagain · 25/01/2018 22:59

OP how are you going to handle a situation when you and DS are walking down the road and he questions why two men/two women are, for example, holding hands?

How are you going to handle a situation when DS says 'im going to marry best male friend?

How will you feel if DS grows up to be a successful business owner who, under your religious guidance, refuses to employ homosexuals because it goes against his religion, and then has to deal with discrimination laws?

Has the school sent a letter home regarding this lesson? Was it actually specifically regarding same sex relationships? Or included in a lesson about all relationships ('we will be holding a session regarding different types of families/relationships including love, marriage, same sex marriage, etc.), which by excluding him you will then be forcing him to miss out on a lot of other information which is 'allowed' in your religion, for the sake of 'shielding' him from probably one or two sentences which you simply refuse to tolerate??

PPs I think this is a losing battle, and a thread which will end up ending as 'you can't argue with stupid'. Oh and OP will probably flounce.

God help you OP.

maximu · 25/01/2018 23:00

As a parent of a yr 2 child myself I'm pretty surprised that yours doesn't already know about same sex relationships.

0hCrepe · 25/01/2018 23:01

Need I point out that God is a man? Can’t get much higher than him. The whole religion is built on the premise of a male being the big I am.

bostonkremekrazy · 25/01/2018 23:01

MissMouseMcPhee - yes. Several local schools did the same kind of 'lesson'. it was sold to parents as a celebration of LGBT.

Greensleeves · 25/01/2018 23:01

Well, Aeroflot, many small children have that reaction to being taught phonics or subtraction too. Just as well we don't let them pick and choose which aspects of the curriculum to be involved in!

Aeroflotgirl · 25/01/2018 23:04

Bloody hell Greensleeves he's only young, I understand that might be a stock response of a lot of young kids. I said that I would be happy to have a class about different types of relationships, he just becuause of his SN ya know, might not quite get it. No need to be aggressive at me!

BIWI · 25/01/2018 23:04

@yasminluv - it doesn't matter what religion you belong to or were referring to. Teaching that homosexuality is wrong is wrong. And if you want to keep following that teaching, by removing your child from lessons, then I'm sorry but that makes you homophobic.

It is legal for men and women to marry people of the same sex. Whether you/your religion likes it or not. And your child should grow up knowing that this is the case. Because if they don't, we'll never get rid of homophobia.

BLUESEAPARADISE · 25/01/2018 23:05
Hmm
Greensleeves · 25/01/2018 23:07

I didn't think I was being aggressive. I just don't think "he wouldn't be interested, he'd be asking when lunch is" was a very good justification for a child not participating in an area of the curriculum - and I really think OP needs to understand that this IS a part of the curriculum, and very important part, and she'll be doing her son no favours from trying to shield him from it imo.

YerAuntFanny · 25/01/2018 23:09

If it's anything like my DS ' school the session wasn't dedicated to Same Sex relationships, it was about relationships in general BUT they did have to inform parents of the subject beforehand because some people may not want the child to take part.

It wasn't segregating of making a big deal out of it they were just acknowledging that sadly, homophobia still exists.

Greensleeves · 25/01/2018 23:09

I feel really sorry for and angry on behalf of children who are sheltered from reality by fundie parents (of all types). It's bloody cruel and irresponsible, unless you can afford to maintain them on a country estate for the rest of their natural lives so they won't have to deal with how disadvantaged they are.

Aeroflotgirl · 25/01/2018 23:09

I was saying that probably after the class about relationships, he would probably be asking about when lunch was or going out to play, than in depth questions about what he was learning or be that interested in it, probably some might be the same as him. A bit matter of fact about it tbh.

yasminluv · 25/01/2018 23:12

Itsthattimeagain

Exactly like I did when I was younger seeing two men holding hands I say that’s there choice it didn’t concern me at all.

If my son was a business owner he wouldn’t discriminate against anyone for his own choice. This person who works for him is a fellow human being and as long as they can do the job that’s all that matters I’m 29 I survived and fine and tolerable or all races and people and I’m sure there are many of me around and my son will be too
Thank you everyone for your input both positive and negative

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sirfredfredgeorge · 25/01/2018 23:13

It's not going to be SRE (that's not part of the KS1 curriculum) it's unlikely to be in RE (it's not a religious subject) and you do not have a right to withdraw kids from random other parts of a curriculum in a school that you choose your child to attend, withdraw them (and home ed, as I imagine such topics will be covered in all schools)

GColdtimer · 25/01/2018 23:17

Op are you Christian? Because my gay uncle is a Christian and us accepted. There are many gay priests. Not sure I understood your atheist point.

What will you do if your son is Gay? Will you not accept his relationship because it's "forbidden".

catkind · 25/01/2018 23:20

Exactly like I did when I was younger seeing two men holding hands I say that’s there choice it didn’t concern me at all.
That's their choice is pretty much the message that any brief mention of same sex relationships in Y2 is likely to consist of. What are you so worried about?

ScaryMary81 · 25/01/2018 23:21

I think people are confused it's not a sex ed lesson at all. It's a lesson about different families. There is a board up in school with pics of 2 mummy families and 2 daddy families etc.

Nothing sexual at all, I should imagine the school will encounter problems, we are a faith family, yet I talk with my children and explain, everyone has a right to believe and live the life they want. And we should respect that as we would expect to be respected regardless of difference.

Whatever religion a child is raised in, if they are LBGT, they are LGBT. I have three muslim friends, two who chose conventional marriages and lead a double life and one who refused and is shunned for society all raised in traditional muslim households.

Learning about LBGT or different families does not make them inclined that way, a person either is or isn't LBGT, and genetically predispositioned in the womb as I believe personally.

It does however normalise it in society where people will learn to respect rather than hate or fear their families being contaminated by LBGT, which I think we can see on this thread.

You can be a muslim or christian or any religion and believe it's not right and teach your children the same, but you can also teach them to respect other people's differences and life choices without conflict, it's called tolerance and being humble which are both admirable qualities taught in all religions.

yasminluv · 25/01/2018 23:23

Catkind I’m not worried
I just don’t think it’s for the age of 6-7 that’s all. And I didn’t know what they are covering exactly..

Goodnight guys

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Hercules12 · 25/01/2018 23:25

This is a good example of why I'm an atheist. This isn't a god of love the op believes in.

Itsthattimeagain · 25/01/2018 23:25

Exactly CatKind!!