In Yr2 kids same sex relationships lessons

[yasminluv]

Hi
In Year 2 they have a day where kids learn about samesex relationships
It’s after Easter apperantly is that nationally and is every school different

If this to happen How can I as a parent address this with the teacher the fact that I don’t want him to participate

[mrsmrsmrsmrsmrs]

I too have had similar discussions with DS but then I am no longer strictly religious and would like him to know that it is OK for anyone, including him, to fall in love with someone of the same sex.

Please could we have some respect for OP - this is not the case for her.

[pallisers]

OP, I think your concern - and your desire to kick this one down the road for a year or two - may be because you know how difficult it will be to explain to him that you aren't condemning gay couples but they are still wrong/sinful. It is a tricky concept for an adult tbh and I don't envy you having to parse it out with a child.

But if that is what you believe, you are going to have to find the language to do so and live with the consequences in terms of what your child might say or think about gay couples or children of gay couples he may meet in the future - because he will meet them.

I wonder if having to deal with this is making you face the reality of what you believe as applied to real people- because presumably you don't just believe "not for me but live and let live" but something more along the lines of "this is an unholy or sinful lifestyle"

It is entirely possible that you will some day have a close family member who lives an openly gay life. You will have to figure out your reaction to that too.

[Blackteadrinker77]

Does your child not have any children from same sex parents in the class?
I'm surprised at the age of 7 he isn't already aware.

[Sugarpiehoneyeye]

If you don't allow your child to participate in the lesson, you run the risk of alienating him from his friends.
You should also teach your child love and understanding, alongside acceptance and tolerance.
It is far easier for children to learn together as a collective, about this particular subject.
Please be mindful.

[ShitWit]

I’m not judgemental - I can see that buying a raffle ticket at the school Christmas fair isn’t a big deal - but I explain that we have choices and I have chosen to follow this principle because of my faith.

I wonder if something similar would work for you?

For OP to explain her choices and beliefs shed need to let her son learn about the other options available, it sounds like you let youtalk about your reasoning with your children and let them make up their own mind, whereas it sounds like OP is wanting her son to believe the same her, or she’d let him take part in a lesson where being gay isnt seen as forbidden, she won’t be able to explain that many people, religious or otherwise, chose to believe being gay is fine and why she’s chosen to believe it’s forbidden and then letting her son decide for himself.

Is there a chance that he’s already absorbed your feelings about same sex relationships OP and you are worried about him vocalising what he’s been taught at home in class? Or could it be you don’t want him taking part because if he learns reject the idea being gay is forbidden, he may reject other outdated elements if your religion or even the whole religion itself?

[justifiede]

Why is everybody havign a go at OP?
she has a right to pull her son out of the lesson, she has a right to teach him herself the way that she wants to.
she should not be made to feel bad about not wanting her child to learn things at age 7.
I agree with Op in that it's a bit young to be learning about it, yes he probably already knows about same sex relationships as did i when I was quite young however it's completely up to the parents about how and when he should actually have a discussion etc on it.
In my opinion 7 is a bit young for a talk about relationships of any kind really., I wasn't taught until much older and I survived!

[snowbellj]

I expect your son will already be aware that same sex relationships exist.
I don't think you should worry - the teacher will probably just discuss relationships and also make the children aware that these can be between men and women, men and men of women and women.
I work in reception and we have been doing a wedding topic recently - we made sure that wedding pictures shown were multi cultural and also included pictures of same-sex marriages - the children didn't have any issue with this at all.

[LondonLassInTheCountry]

7 is late.

And you do realise that the children maybe talking about it afterwards anyway.

My niece knew at 3 that her auntie loved another girl. And now at 5. Understands boys can love boys and girls can love girls and it doesnt matter. And thats just love


With all due respect. You need to get over it

[DrudgeJedd]

A whole day focused on this is overkill.

[bostonkremekrazy]

MissMouseMcPhee - my kids school had a session like this last year....
I withdrew my dc from the class so do not know the entire content, but different types of families were discussed, with lots of talk about how homosexual families were made up.
There are many families who choose to withdraw children from sex ed classes, likewise there are many families who choose to withdraw children from corporate worship (assembly) particularly JW children.
This is a parents right and while schools are educating our children, the religious aspects do not need to come into play - but do, obviously. This is why people choose to withdraw their kids from certain lessons or assemblies - its not like the OP @yasminluv is saying her child cannot attend Maths or English. Where religion is concerned, the parent, not the school, are the educators.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

In my opinion 7 is a bit young for a talk about relationships of any kind really., I wasn't taught until much older and I survived!

Yes, but most children aren't children of asexual relationships, so unlike you, they will have been taught about this before.

[ShitWit]

ShitWit where in Christianity does it say women are less

I didn’t say Christianity did say that, you hadnt said which religion you were until that post, or if you did I didn’t see you say you where Christian, I asked if your religion was one of the ones that viewed women less and if it did, are you be teaching your son that too.

[ScaryMary81]

Would you feel the same about learning about different religions, disability or race?

Probably not, but they including LBGT and are all covered under the same Equality Act. Everyone has the right to live the life they choose and be respected and accepted in society.

I find it particularly funny that religious types are using it as an argument against or reason not to participate. When you'd be the first to comment or report if someone discriminated/persecuted you or your
family for your religious beliefs and life choices.

[PatriciaHolm]

I don't imagine for one minute there is an entire day planned for this.

It will be touched upon in an SRE lesson, which in keeping with good practice parents have been told about in advance. At this age SRE will focus on things like the importance of healthy Bodies, the concepts of privacy, the concepts of what makes up a relationship. It will be one part of the SRE syllabus. In reality, it will be impossible to keep at Year 2 in the dark about what all his friends have been learning.

[ScaryMary81]

It is also compulsory as it was made very clear in the letter we received home, as the school has a majority muslim population.

It said unlike sex ed, it was compulsory and parents don't have the right to withdraw their children.

[MissMouseMcPhee]

Boston Do you live in the UK?

[RavenWings]

Same sex relationship lessons at that age are probably something along the lines of reading Tango Makes Three or King and King. Just reinforcing the concept that families are not just Mummy, Daddy, children. Nothing wrong with that.

[0hCrepe]

For the record Christianity clearly does say women are lesser- hmmm when was the last female archbishop or pope? Oh and how come women could only become bishops in the last few years?

[Greensleeves]

and there's the whole spare rib thing

[catkind]

However do they get to 7 in this country without knowing same sex relationships exist? At some point your child is going to chat to another child and find out they have two mums or two dads in their household. Or get into one of those who can marry who conversations and another child will point out that actually girls can marry girls if they want to. If you don't want them to react in a bigoted or ignorant way when that happens, best drop it into conversation sooner rather than later.

If you think it's wrong you could just say "well the laws of this country allow a man to marry another man, but the laws of (insert religion here) say it's wrong".

My kids know stuff about all sorts of cultures they're never even likely to encounter and who did/do all sorts of stuff we strongly disapprove of. You can't even discuss why you disagree with something if they don't know it exists.

[yasminluv]

pallisers I just don’t think I can explain it to him at this stage whereas at 9-10 I can explain it fully and also tell him that this is part of society and it’s the norm..
btw you guys are bashing me I grew up in very Christian household and did exactly what I did mixed well with other children had gay work colleagues which I love as human beings but I still believe in what my mum and dad taught me and I didn’t turn like u guys are painting me
I firstly didn’t no the content of that day and I thought he’s too young

[Gileswithachainsaw]

Surely it would be more an exercise in discussing the different ways families are made up?

They aren't taking them to a live sex shiw

I'm surprised I must admit that a 7 yr old isn't aware that two men or two women in love can get married. It's no different to them living with a mum and dad they know are married.

The younger they learn the better. So they grow up knowing it's normal. Because it is.

They will come across families with 2 mum's or 2 dads. You cant hide forever

[yasminluv]

ShitWit you just thought I was following Islam that’s why

[Greensleeves]

You love them as human beings but believe their primary relationships are sinful and wrong...do they know you think that?

[0hCrepe]

And if you’re a Christian there are many gay priests so you’ve actually chosen to be more fundamental when many Christians quite happily accept homosexuality.