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In Yr2 kids same sex relationships lessons

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yasminluv · 25/01/2018 21:50

Hi
In Year 2 they have a day where kids learn about samesex relationships
It’s after Easter apperantly is that nationally and is every school different

If this to happen How can I as a parent address this with the teacher the fact that I don’t want him to participate

OP posts:

ScaryMary81 · 25/01/2018 23:26

Apologies - . I have three muslim friends, who are gay/lesbian, two who chose conventional marriages and lead a double life and one who refused and is shunned by his own family and the majority of muslim society, all raised in traditional muslim households.

NeverTwerkNaked · 25/01/2018 23:28

catkind · 25/01/2018 23:31

DD's whole class know it since the age of 4 as a classmate happens to have two mums. It's not "for" any particular age, it's just general background knowledge it's a good idea to be aware of sooner so you don't make a fool of yourself later. Like knowing that twins exist.

NeverTwerkNaked · 25/01/2018 23:31

There’s no age “too young” to start learning about the gloriously diverse ways people live their lives. I’ve always talked to mine quite matter of factly about the fact some people choose same sex relationships. I want them to accept and respect themselves /their friends whatever their sexuality.

Similarly we’ve always talked about different religions, and cultures. Closing them off from difference is a frightened, bigoted way to parent.

AdidasGirl · 25/01/2018 23:40

I think it's so sad that you want to pull your child from this.
Love is love.
My DS is 5 and he knows that if you love someone then you love them.
2 of my best friends(men) are married and my son calls them both 'Uncle'
He knows they love each other and isn't phased at all.

EggsonHeads · 25/01/2018 23:42

Just ask the school when it is and pull him out. I won't lie, it would make me uncomfortable as well. It's not because I am 'scared that it would turn them gay' or any other tosh lile that but because it is a difficult issue and over simplifying the issue in particular has potential to harm them, especially if they end up being gay. The last thing I would want is for my gay son to miss out on having a family because everyone was so busy telling him how normal and healthy his relationship is (why should his natural feelings be anything else ffs) that they forget to tell him that as a gay man he is going to find it extremely difficult to start a family. Seven is too young to say anything constructive.

Ketzele · 25/01/2018 23:45

I haven't yet heard - from OP or anyone - why the existence of my type of family is information that children need to be protected from till they get older. She keeps saying it's her opinion, but not explaining why. I would love to hear an explanation that ISN'T homophobic.

I'm not religious, but have no problem with my children being taught about religion at school. Because they are there to learn about the world they live in. They have come home and asked me if I am religious, and I have said no and explained why, while emphasising respect for individual beliefs. So lots of good learning all round - why would any parent want to block that?

BattleCuntGalactica · 25/01/2018 23:45

Oh man that's almost a full bingo card!

Ketzele · 25/01/2018 23:48

it is a difficult issue and over simplifying the issue in particular has potential to harm them, especially if they end up being gay. EggsonHeads, please explain this. Is it really that you think it encourages children to adopt a sterile life? You do know how many gay men are now choosing parenthood?

Seven is too young to say anything constructive. I think just acknowledging that families come in all shapes is hugely constructive - especially for the children, like minehem?, live in non-traditional families. They hate having to explain their family all the time, and a lesson like this would really help. Why wouldn't you want to help that?

Aeroflotgirl · 25/01/2018 23:50

A lesson or two is fine, but a whole day seems a bit excessive, it's not like you can go in depth with 7 year olds. Those saying, well my 4 year old understands. Not all children of that age will have that level of understanding. The concepts of relationships and marriage and what they mean may go over some kids heads. We were never taught about relationships at school, just academics. In time we learned about different relationships as we got older. I am a live and let live person, don't care what relationships people are in, as long as they are happy. Nowadays tgere seems to be a desperation to impart as much information to young children as possible at an early age. Not only have they got to learn academics, but different sometimes quite confusing concepts.

Itsthattimeagain · 25/01/2018 23:53

Like knowing that twins exist

Oh and BTW OP, please stop using the words 'tolerance/tolerate', you do not know the meaning, because you do not tolerate homosexuals, you ignore their sexuality, that my love is 'ignorance'.
Even if you do use the word tolerate, this just means you 'put up with them'...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 26/01/2018 00:01

aero, when you say you were never taught about relationships, just 'academics' (whatever those may be) - did people religiously refuse to refer to marriage?

How did your history lessons work, if you learned that Henry VIII split from the Church of Rome, but the reasons why were censored?

What were you taught, in geography, when you studied human housing? Was it hard to understand why people would live together, given you weren't taught about relationships?

When you did literature, was it slightly strange reading books with pages ripped out?

I can see it must have been very educational, but for the rest of us, who were taught about relationships as a matter of course in ordinary english, history, maths and science lessons, it's strange to imagine.

Aeroflotgirl · 26/01/2018 00:07

Yes those kinds of things, not specific lessons on relationships like what is happening now. That was taught at senior school, not in primary level. In primary we covered the ww2, P league, great fire of London, medieval times. Different types of transport. I went to a state primary over 35 years ago.

blueCanvas · 26/01/2018 00:08

Why can you tell him now it's not that complicated some people like a different gender to them and some like the same.

daffodildelight · 26/01/2018 00:08

I'm a Christian and very supportive of gay people. We have gay clergy. The Pope is ok with gay people.
Love your neighbour. Judge no one. Jesus always stood up for the persecuted and downtrodden and the outcasts of society. We should too.

OP I think you should talk to your child before hand and explain to them about gay people if you are worried. I personally would be very happy for my children to attend the lesson as it will be age appropriate.

I do question if posts like these are genuine though. Why would you not just go to the school? Is it another case of atheists pretending to be something they are not to try and portray religion in a certain way???

ScaryMary81 · 26/01/2018 00:08

I was using the word tolerance for people who's religious values teach them that LGBT is a sin and ultimately wrong on all levels. That isn't my personal view.

Religious people have a right to live and believe as they choose, as you do you, the key here is accepting different views and not forcing what you believe is right or wrong on anyone else.

Aeroflotgirl · 26/01/2018 00:08

In primary English we did reading, writing, comprehension. Ginn books. Nothing with relationships in.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 26/01/2018 00:10

Ah, 'medieval times'. They didn't have sex back then, right?

aero, even in 'medieval times' and even 35 years ago, people still mentioned heterosexual relationships. Trust me. I have seen the John and Jane reading books that have a daddy and a mummy. I have read Enid Blyton.

These things are taught. It is plain silly to pretend that children don't grow up being taught about relationships between men and women, in the most calm and un-sensational way, all the time.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 26/01/2018 00:11

'Ginn books. Nothing with relationships in'.

Honey, they have relationships in.

ScaryMary81 · 26/01/2018 00:12

Tolerate - English Dictionary
1.
allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one dislikes or disagrees with) without interference.

ScaryMary81 · 26/01/2018 00:12

TOLERATE - English Dictionary
1.
allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one dislikes or disagrees with) without interference.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 26/01/2018 00:12

'Ginn books. Nothing with relationships in'.

Honey, they have relationships in.

Aeroflotgirl · 26/01/2018 00:12

Yes those sorts of things LRD, and I knew I had a mum and a dad in my family and they were married (whatever that was when I was little).

LRDtheFeministDragon · 26/01/2018 00:12

'Ginn books. Nothing with relationships in'.

Honey, they have relationships in.

Aeroflotgirl · 26/01/2018 00:13

Did they, LRD, probably dident take much notice of them as I was dreadful at school.

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