Failed phonics y1 phonics test & advanced reader

[Robindrama]

( I have another thread here but will post specific question as a separate one) any ideas will be much appreciated.

Ds in y1. Just had a parents evening. End of year prediction: reading above expectation, but will fail phonics test.
Question: how can that be possible?

School reading levels are 1-26, 26 free reader. End of y1 expected level is 17/18. DS is currently on level 20. Excellent reading and advanced comprehension.
Phonics tests results 23/40. Expected to fail the test. I will have a meeting with teachers shortly.

"I do remember a teacher talking about how an "e' on the end of a word changes the way it's pronounced."
Come, some, love, glove, dove,above, done, one, have, give, live, engine, imagine, urge, large etc

There was talk about a pilot for a retake in Yr3 user. I'm not sure what the results of that were.

As mrz says, most of those children have already been identified by the end of yr 1.

You have made me wonder about those children who just scrape a 'pass' in year 2 though. Presumably those children have an enormous gap between their skills and the skills you would expect at the end of year 2. What happens to them?

Some schools regard passing the phonics check as the end of phonics teaching even though they haven't finished covering all the alternative spellings for the sounds

That was what I was worried about.

Arguably the children that score 32 at the end of yr 2 are much further behind than those with that score at the end of yr1 although it would be easy to treat them the same.

I really don't get people who say a child is a good reader so failing the phonics checks doesn't matter.
They can be good reader for how long? Visual memory can't go forever, they will encounter something new in the future.

I can understand all the frustration from decent teachers on here, trying to explain the importance of phonics, good readers who worked out decoding without phonics cannot fail phonics check. They know how to decode.

They are the lucky ones, who can read without phonics, but like my ds, they must have figured out themselves. And phonics teaching at school only strengthen the skill, it won't damage their ability, ime.

That's why it rings alarm bells, if people say child exceeds in reading but fails phonics check. They are ringing alarm bells about the teaching, not child who hasn't cracked reading at age of 5/6. It can come later.
But with the child who can read Harry Potter in reception, but fails phonics, there's something not right, imo.

That's why it rings alarm bells, if people say child exceeds in reading but fails phonics check.

I just wanted to agree with all the knowledgeable teachers on here. Most of my teaching experience is in KS2, but I'm now in my 2nd year of teaching Y2. I can say with complete confidence that every 'good' reader in my school passes the phonics test. Some less confident readers also pass, but as a school we know they need more support, which we of course provide. Without exception, the children who fail the phonics check cannot read accurately. I would be very concerned if my own children failed, no matter how well they appeared to be reading books.

My school has sent all of Year 1 some optional homework for break. It is a page of writing (spelling and punctuation correction of sentences, and several page that look just like the phonics test.

DS1 can do neither.

Before break I asked the teacher to suggest some maths and some English he could work on over break.

I'm quite annoyed that we've wasted our 19 days of break by having work that is so far above him, it's not worth doing... and he hates it.

Interesting thing is he gets all of his spellings right. I think he has a very good memory but doesn't really understand the rules of phonics.