Y2 sats scores

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Have received DS Y2 ks1 report including the sats results as EXP but without the scaled scores. Have asked the school for the numerical scores but they seem reluctant to release them has anyone else had a similar experience and do you know if the school can refuse to give out the scaled scores?

Dandelion - My point was that the tests are not to 'check' the TA is right, and never have been, for the reasons stated.

The test checks children make adequate progress, if they don't there is a problem, is the assessment wrong? Was it wrong at key stage one, two or did school fail to progress the child.
By default it checks the TA.

Not really
But his results are - to me - irrelevant

No, they're not there to check.progress either. Progress is checked from the Y2 TA to the Y6 tests. The Y2 tests are not reported anywhere.

The purpose of the Y2 tests is to contribute one small piece of an overall jigsaw relating to the whole child.

So when you are moderated they don't look at TA to SAts?

I know DS has done well because we got the SATs results (scaled) at the end of the report. The results matched the teacher's assessment. She wrote a summary on how he progressed on the different subjects, he got Above Average (Greater Depth) and the SATs results were in line with this.

I think sats are actually useful. I know it's just one test, and it may not reflect child's true ability, but it's one test you can compare child's ability nationally.
So there's no confusion that one child was G&T in one school, average in another, etc.

You could compare if the data was collected ...it isn't

Yes, yes yes!
Thank you mrz.(as always)
I was making a fundamental mistake in understanding how sats works.

How can the new test check the TA except on a question by question basis?

Given the all or nothingExcept NC nature of the new frameworks it would be perfectly possible for a child with a specific gap to score well on the test but still be working towards.

There's some reported data about ta vs scaled scores I saw this weekend. I'll find a link when I get home but it doesn't look straightforward at all.

They test the school, they are a check that you have correct TA scores

How? No one sees them except the teacher

Children that perform well in year two testing usually preform well at year six testing

According to research EYFS outcomes are a better indicator of GCSE success than SATs

No, the SAT scores usually follow a pattern, I live in a super selective grammar area the children who got level 3 in year two usually achieve level six in year six.

Except the data doesn't support this conclusion

In science you could only give wts or exp no greater depth allowed.

Here's that link sigplus.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/analysis-of-relationships-between.html

In our school was a bit of a drip feed. I don't think you mentioned that in the post that I first responded to.

So when you are moderated they don't look at TA to SAts?

As one of many pieces of evidence. Any teacher expecting test scores to provide anything more than that would get short shrift - moderators want to see evidence of every standard in class work.

Badders, you must have complete faith in your school. If you DS is very able I'm surprised you don't want his results.

What a sad message for a governor to be touting on a parenting forum.

When I was moderated they didn't look at the tests at all.

when we were moderated they explicitly said they would NOT look at any test related information but wanted alternative evidence for everything!

That's my experience too. When I was moderated my moderator was being externally moderated to ensure correct procedure and only looked at evidence in books.

Mine too - and it can't be much different this year if they want every standard exemplified.

School I know had to produce books not test scripts. Some were moderated before the tests were administered this year.

I'm interested to see some people say that you can only get expected or below expected level on science. My school gave my son exceeding expected level

Our school had three levels (below/expected/exceeding) for all subjects in the report, including science, geography, history, PE, Art, etc.

A fb friend has said her child had exceeding for everything.

Obviously variation!