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Y2 sats scores

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NK1814268aX1208c8e15c8 · 10/07/2016 08:45

Have received DS Y2 ks1 report including the sats results as EXP but without the scaled scores. Have asked the school for the numerical scores but they seem reluctant to release them has anyone else had a similar experience and do you know if the school can refuse to give out the scaled scores?

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Mummyzzz · 11/07/2016 06:34

You're kidding?! This is all so ridiculous, these are primary school tests, no top-secret MI5 papers! Why they can't just give all parents the raw scores is beyond me.

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 06:38

I agree, at our school you are made to feel like a very pushy parent for asking. Each parent that asks has an meeting with the teacher ( big waste of time)
I'm also amused by the parents who claim they don't care, or its all rubbish...but then want to see the result. IMHO a parent that is interested in their child's education would definitely want the results.

mrz · 11/07/2016 06:45

In Y2 the tests are used as a single piece of evidence to support TA which is what is reported. A child might do badly/well in the tests but if this isn't reflected in work over the year then it is "cancelled out". (Essentially the tests are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things I'm afraid).

Teachers have a set of standards that they must evidence if they want to award expected or GDS.

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 07:20

GCSEs are a one off test, we still care about the results. Not meaningless at all.

mrz · 11/07/2016 07:46

GCSEs are reported as the level achieved the Y2 test results aren't used that way they have no more value (in fact less) than daily classroom work. That's the difference

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 08:07

Children that perform well in year two testing usually preform well at year six testing.
The high performing Year six children usually have higher GCSE results.

The level three children in our school are usually the level six children in year six.

I think they are an indicator. They are used within schools and I'd bet most of your children performed how you expected them too?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 11/07/2016 08:48

Are you confusing the testing with the teacher assessment Dandelion?

The test results weren't reported under the old system either so it would be impossible to know whether the children who scored highest in year 2 also scored highest at GCSE.

user789653241 · 11/07/2016 08:57

SaturdaySurprise, these are things that Yr3 children should be able to do to reach "working at greater depth"

www.ncetm.org.uk/public/files/23305581/Mastery_Assessment_Y3_Low_Res.pdf

Badders123 · 11/07/2016 09:06

Are people really comparing Y2 sats and GCSEs!?
Wow.

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Badders123 · 11/07/2016 09:18

We get ds2s report today inc sats results.
I couldn't give a rats ass.
I feel so sorry for the teachers having to implement this bloody omnishambles
Can't people see what's happening?
Both in education and the NHS?
Keep changing the goalposts, impose targets that are impossible to achieve, demoralise staff, demonise the profession, and then.....privatise.
It's happening.
And we are all letting it.
God, I'm depressed 😞

icklekid · 11/07/2016 09:20

maki because she has only been at the school a term they won't have the evidence to show she is expected at all the objectives they needed to cover. I would just speak to her next teacher and ask to be informed if they have any concerns in any of those areas!

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 09:47

Are you confusing the testing with the teacher assessment Dandelion

No, the SAT scores usually follow a pattern, I live in a super selective grammar area the children who got level 3 in year two usually achieve level six in year six. They usually pass the 11 plus too.

I'm a school governor, have been for a number of years and the school track TA and Sat scores. We usually find the TA score matches up with the SAT scores. ( of course some children jump and some slump, some don't get any to touring so don't pass the 11 plus, on the whole though they are accurate.)

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 09:50

Are people really comparing Y2 sats and GCSEs!?
Wow.

Yes, it's no different, it's a test. It shows what you are capable of. Why would this test be any different to a GCSE with 100% exam?

Badders123 · 11/07/2016 09:55

Because a GCSE has a tangible obvious affect on your future.
Unlike sats

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 10:12

Good effort to miss the point there! A test is a test, it tests your knowledge and ability.

Most teachers should have found test results pretty much inline with TA. You may get the odd surprise but they shouldn't be that far out.

Therefore they are not meaningless.

Badders123 · 11/07/2016 10:50

They are utterly meaningless when there is continuous assessment anyway

user789653241 · 11/07/2016 11:00

I don't think any test is meaningless.

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 11:02

They test the school, they are a check that you have correct TA scores.

Yes the world has gone crazy with them, school play a big part with all the extra tuition. They are pretty robust in terms of ability indicators though.

If they don't tie in with your TA, something went wrong ( ignoring the wobbly children or sick)

Therefore they are not meaningless for a parent, they show the child's ability on the new curriculum test. Alongside a TA they are interesting.

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 11:05

Let's not forget not all teachers are amazing, if school told you that your child was emerging then they score 115.. What would you think?

Or the other way round!!!! Even more frightening!

Badders123 · 11/07/2016 11:08

The new curriculum which has been pushed through in order to smooth the way for enforced academisation...
I was a school governor too!

Dandelion6565 · 11/07/2016 11:12

I agree way too much politics involved in education, I also think we will see privatisation and none of it is good.
The new curriculum is a god send for more able children through.

Badders123 · 11/07/2016 11:14

And those with Sen?
What about them!?
SadAngry

Badders123 · 11/07/2016 11:14

And I say this as a parent of a very able year 2 child

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