Y2 sats scores

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Have received DS Y2 ks1 report including the sats results as EXP but without the scaled scores. Have asked the school for the numerical scores but they seem reluctant to release them has anyone else had a similar experience and do you know if the school can refuse to give out the scaled scores?

I know, it's not good for SEN children.

littlepinkmouse thanks for your link. We haven't had DD's scores yet, but the explanation is useful.

Have you received your child's results badders?

No
Just verbally from his teacher that he did "very well"

Are you not curious?

I have a very able child but nt convinced the new curriculum is good thing by any shot. Sidelines art. Music,pe etc to focus on examined subjects and then the actual thing examined is pulling apart grammar (at 6/7??) and losing creativity and storytelling and similar skills. All roads lead to SATS and the fun of infant school is slowly eroded. Certainly if you look at the impact on teachers there's less time and energy for actual teaching and knowing the kids as there's so much red tape to jump through.

Id rather see a balanced, non examined curriculum with bright students extended.

I agree with Mov1ngOn, about new curriculum is not entirely god send for able children. I feel they are more restrictive than old NC.
This year my ds learned nothing new in maths, and he got " working at greater depth". Of course he is, he mastered it all before, yet not allowed to move forward.

They test the school, they are a check that you have correct TA scores.

Except that the Interim framework and the tests test different things in Y2, particularly in Maths where equipment is not permitted in the tests yet a child with a TA of ' At expected' may use equipment to support them.

There's also a big mismatch between the reading tests and the Interim framework.

So that's not the case with the new Y2 tests - and the old tests could be used any time from September and were part of the assessment conversation. Therefore they might be a long way off your final TA.

Totally agree , extra depth is great if they are extended , but what use is a mastery curriculum if it's way below what a child is capable of , , the new system seems to be completely useless for Sen , unrealistic to raise the bar for the majority without time to prepare , and dumbing down for exceptional kids 😞

At our school they have never allowed children to work outside of the curriculum. At least this new one is more of challenge.

They extend sideways, which can work well, especially with writing. It's not ideal.
I also bang my head on he wall with the lack of challenge.

All roads leading to SATs is the fault of the school though, they need to calm down over sats. We have two prep schools locally that focus on 11 plus, they get 100% to grammar ( they loose those who won't pass) they tests the children constantly and they just take in in their stride.

Feenie why didn't they draw out the apparatus? Or use the ruler as a number line?
I agree it's a stupid mismatch.

Completely different type of testing Dandelion. Schools are judged on the sats hence the focus. Well known if you judge something on results all effort goes to the results regardless of context.

I taught at a grammar school, have no fear of annual testing of content I chose to teach! I'd probably send to a local prep school if I had the kind of money for a balanced non sats focused curriculum. Truly inspiring kids with subjects you're interested in rather than teaching to a narrow prescribed test.

Ridiculous that education is so interfered with by the govt.

Sorry my point regarding the prep school was that children can cope really well with testing.
This year has Seen so many stressed children, stressed as schools have made such a big deal about SATs. If children sat tests every fortnight, they wouldn't be stressed.
If school weren't bringing you in on holiday for cramming, or doing lots of boost sessions children would be less stressed.

All roads leading to SATs is the fault of the school though, they need to calm down over sats.

Agree. At DS's school he never missed any of the Art, Music, PE, etc classes. They only did some practise tests a few weeks before the SATs. He never got any practise tests to bring home, only the usual homework related to what they were learning that week. I don't know the results of the other children, but DS did well and they did not make a big deal about the SATs at his school.

Again, whether the child can be taught beyond what is expected at his year group or not it's all to do with the particular school/teacher's interpretation of the new curriculum. It doesn't specifically say that this cannot be done, but that it is the teacher's call whether the child is ready and has mastered the content for his year group. My experience so far has been that DS has been extended not only sideways but also with content from the year above as well.

We have seen a bit of content from the year above. One teacher is a bit sneaky and does it as fun sessions at the end of her top set maths groups ( I love that teacher)
We just stretch at home.

Dandelion...no I'm really not

Can I ask how you know your children have done well did you have the scaled reports and how were they communicated ?

Raw scores, which be converted using the tables online.
I asked for the results.

Badders, you must have complete faith in your school. If you DS is very able I'm surprised you don't want his results.

I've looked at SilverGiraffe's link and I can't see in it that parents can demand the scores although I have made the request to school in any event. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

DD achieved GDW throughout but I am concerned that the concept of "mastery" has left her feeling bored (her word) and unmotivated. School operates a passport system for numeracy. She achieved the highest country in late November, and wasn't allowed to move on until Yr3. Very demotivating for a 6/7 year old to be held back for ten months until through the effluxion of time it is deemed that you are now old enough to know more.

Ladyflip even more confused now as school has set our results so GDS can only be achieved at writing and maths reading science can only achieve EXP how can this be ?

You can ask for them and school must give them, it is on the government webpage...www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara

Number 6 I think.

Ladyflip , on page 15, it says:

"Schools are not obliged to report test results to parents in an annual report (see section 11).
However, parents must be allowed access to their child’s results on request."

I think sats results gives you GDS only for writing, but I assume TA can be GDS for other subject as well?

Sats don't give any gds standards, they didn't test writing. I think they are setting GDS for key stage two "some time in the summer"

Most teachers on he TES forum think about 110 plus for GDS (key stage one) for their children, lots said that exceeding children got 110 or higher which would be around 90% pass mark.

Not sure if mumsnet teachers would agree.

Ah, thanks ladies. NK she did have EXP for science but i believed there hadn't been a test for it so knew there wouldn't be scores and had therefore discounted it in my post IYSWIM? Not that school have given us that info, so it is interesting that she couldn't have got a higher grade than she did.