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Primary School wont diagnose dyslexia

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bethalexander · 01/06/2015 14:06

My 9yo DD is really struggling with her spelling and is bottom of her class. We think she has dyslexia but her primary won't test her. Getting her tested privately costs a fortune. Surely the primary have a duty to test her?

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kesstrel · 07/06/2015 09:51

Bethalexander

I would look into spelling games and apps. My daughter used to love doing little six-word crossword puzzles where the clues were pictures. We had a whole pad of them, and we would do some every day before school. She would use her phonics, and I would explain "in this word, you use the ea spelling", or whatever. But I bet there are much better things available these days!

mrz · 07/06/2015 09:55

Oliversmumsarmy they can't get rid of their Senco it's a statutory requirement that all schools must employ a Senco.

SuburbanRhonda · 07/06/2015 10:12

Even academies, mrz?

I thought they could employ who they like.

Btw, did I misunderstand or did you say your reception children are studying The Tempest? Shock

SuburbanRhonda · 07/06/2015 10:15

oliver, I work in a school with a specialist speech and language unit.

If we "picked up the bill" for every child not in the unit whose parent wanted an EP assessment we'd probably have to lose a member of staff to fund the costs.

mrz · 07/06/2015 10:22

Yes even in academies and the role must be held by a qualified teacher

mrz · 07/06/2015 10:31

You misunderstood it's my Y1 class who have been studying The Tempest (not the play but a re telling of the story by Marianna Mayer with beautiful illustrations)

Oliversmumsarmy · 07/06/2015 10:47

The SENCO dept was closed. The qualified teachers who ran it were told they didn't need to do it anymore. The only "help" dd was given was a TA heard her read once per week. Dds reading we didn't have concerns about. Maybe the SENCO dept was there on paper but in practice it had gone.

Having read of others concerns over their children's spellings I.e. Becos for because. I would have been over the moon with that. Dd would have probably spelt it scbeue. Telling her to look up a word in a dictionary when she couldn't get the first letter right was completely useless.

Oliversmumsarmy · 07/06/2015 10:51

Suburban I didn't just say I want an EP assessment but it was the school who said I needed one. I also offered to pay for it myself but the answer was still no.

mrz · 07/06/2015 10:58

Oliversmumsarmy if you said to her what sound can you hear at the beginning of because would she be able to tell you?

Oliversmumsarmy · 07/06/2015 11:05

Mrz year 1 studying The Tempest. Could I ask is it a single sex school.
Can I also ask what happens if you have children who cannot read or write. Reading only just clicked with dd in the April in year 1 and she was by no means the last in her class to read.

Oliversmumsarmy · 07/06/2015 11:08

Mrz with "and" she would focus on the "d" sound She couldn't get the first letter correct.

mrz · 07/06/2015 11:38

No Oliversmumsarmy it's a bog standard village primary school in deprived area (although new housing means we now get children from mixed experiences)

mrz · 07/06/2015 11:41

I would focus on getting her to identify sounds in the order they appear in the word ... So if she can hear /d/ say well done there is a /d/ at the end now listen carefully to the sound you hear when you say and ...it's not uncommon for children to remember final sound (one they've literally just heard so it does need teaching not leaving to chance)

SuburbanRhonda · 07/06/2015 11:43

No, I didn't misunderstand, mrz; you posted this:

You might also have worked out that the class have been reading The Tempest ...hence Miranda and Prospero

Not many people would take that to mean a reimagined book of the play, aimed at 5-6 year olds!

Feenie · 07/06/2015 11:48

To be fair, I think most primary school teachers would!

mrz · 07/06/2015 11:58

You asked if you'd misunderstood that reception were studying the Tempest ... and indeed the children aren't reception they are Y1 ...they have watched the BBC version of the play but they haven't read the original text suburban. They read the story version because they were just 5 years old.

mrz · 07/06/2015 12:02

this version. Not sure it's very accurate to describe it as intended for 5 year olds however

SuburbanRhonda · 07/06/2015 12:18

No I didn't ask if I'd misunderstood - you said I had misunderstood Confused.

Perhaps if you'd been clearer in the first place, rather than posting that the children in your class were "reading The Tempest" there would have been no need for my Shock

Feenie · 07/06/2015 12:22

No I didn't ask if I'd misunderstood

SuburbanRhonda Sun 07-Jun-15 10:12:38

Btw, did I misunderstand or did you say your reception children are studying The Tempest?

mrz · 07/06/2015 12:22

SuburbanRhonda Sun 07-Jun-15 10:12:38

Even academies, mrz?

I thought they could employ who they like.

Btw, did I misunderstand or did you say your reception children are studying The Tempest?

my reply was that you misunderstood it's Y1 not reception and yes they have studied it at age appropriate level and no they haven't read the original vesion themselves.

SuburbanRhonda · 07/06/2015 12:34

Oops, sorry, mrz, I did ask! Blush

But to be fair you did say they were reading The Tempest, which can only mean one thing in my book.

Feenie, I'm not aware I asked you anything at all, but please feel free to trawl back through the thread and point out (again) if I'm wrong Smile

FourThingsAndALizard · 07/06/2015 12:34

SuburbanRhonda Sun 07-Jun-15 10:12:38
Btw, did I misunderstand or did you say your reception children are studying The Tempest?

Looks to me like you're asking if you misunderstood - or have I misunderstood?

mrz · 07/06/2015 12:36

The title of the book is The Tempest, suburban, what should I say they had been reading?

Oliversmumsarmy · 07/06/2015 12:40

Dd is nearly 16. Whilst your version of how to teach her might have been put in place, or someone told me about it, believe me when I tell you I tried to get every resource available to her, but without a diagnosis then there is no help or information available.

Dd was diagnosed formally in year 9. By which time she had outgrown all the methods available to help her and as the EP said she would just have to rely on technology.

Re the cost of getting children diagnosed and appropriate action put in place could we not look at the problem of what not diagnosing costs.