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What to do about an irresponsible teacher

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sammyjayneex · 13/05/2015 16:58

So my child's teacher came to me after school and told me my child got hit with a ball during a game of dodge ball which made her fall over and bang her chin on the floor. The teacher said to me my daughter is fine and didn't cry. So we get home and my daughter told me that it was actually the class teacher who threw the ball at my daughter to 'try and get her out of the game' and she said that she did cry coz she got grass and stuff in her mouth. I'm so fuming that a teacher could do this as to be honest a teachers strength is bigger than a child and must have hit hard enough to make her fall. Apparently as the ball hit her side it bounced off her leg and she tripped up and banged her chin and then she went onto tell me the teacher locked her in the power cabin the outer day ( school classrooms are having work done so they are in porter cabins outside locked with a code) my daughter couldn't get out coz there is no way of her opening it herself the teacher has to do it and apparently my daughter was getting her coat and teacher didn't know she was in there but surely she should know how many kids have come out of the Cabin for play time and noticed my daughter hadn't?? Just seems my daughter is always the one who's caught up in this teachers irresponsibility. After she spoke to me about the incident she looked at the PE teacher as I was walking off and said something to him and started laughing. Do you think I should report her?

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sammyjayneex · 15/05/2015 15:01

How unprofessional of your 3 mum friends gossiping about other parents like that. I bet if their children got hurt by and other grown adult teacher they would be unhappy too

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00100001 · 15/05/2015 15:03

Well, your child didn't get hurt by a grown adult tought... did she...

SoupDragon · 15/05/2015 15:27

Your DD tripped over during a game of dodge ball.

Not that you want to hear anything that doesn't uphold your hatred of this teacher.

MythicalKings · 15/05/2015 15:45

I'm thinking the staff would be glad to see the back of you and your DCs. Take a look at yourself, please, before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

You are behaving irrationally, most people are trying to tell you that. What does your DH think? Mine wouldn't be able to stop laughing if I'd carried on like you are.

rabbitstew · 15/05/2015 16:10

sammyjayneex - I would not be unhappy if my ds tripped over a ball playing dodgeball... even if the teacher had thrown it at him as part of the game of dodgeball!

Are you seriously saying that you think this teacher deliberately went out of her way to hurt your dd? And then regretted it and tried to cover it up by bribing her so as to stop her crying? At the same time as callously failing to look inside her mouth for a graze that is hardly visible? And that she deliberately locked your dd in a classroom?

What on earth has this teacher done to make you distrust and loathe her/him so much? Because if your case is that the teacher is the unreasonable one and you are fighting against unfair treatment of your dd by said teacher, you are doing a very good job of making it look like you are the unreasonable one, suffering from a victim complex. If you really do think there is a nasty undertone going in the teacher's dealings with your dd, then you need to present your case better and stop reading evil into absolutely every detail of the teacher's actions.

quietasamouse · 15/05/2015 19:39

I'm guessing if you need a keypad to get in, you need to press a button inside to release the lock to get out?

Littlefish · 15/05/2015 19:43

The Local Authority is not refusing to move your child. There are no spaces at the school you wish to move to. If you ask them to move her to a school with spaces, they will do it straight away.

If you feel so strongly about her current school, then move her to another school with spaces.

mintpoppet · 16/05/2015 06:05

Ffs. Total overreaction. Considering taking to A&E for a simple dodge ball injury. Are you friggin kidding. Cotton wool society.

You clearly hate this teacher and think A&E will add drama to this situation when you talk to headteacher or teacher about it. You are wanting to get them into trouble. It's perfectly normal for a teacher to play dodge ball with a class and yes sometimes kids get hurt in PE. Shock horror!

Your negativity will rub off on your daughter and she will gate the school for another 2-3 years because of you if you continue. If the transfer is going to take a while then you have to make the most of what you've got now. Start by not winding up a situation that was clearly just a simple PE incident that would happen in hundreds of schools every year.

coolaschmoola · 16/05/2015 06:29

A hard ball would not have dropped straight down under your dd's feet....Physics. A sponge ball could.

So someone isn't telling the truth. Is it you or your DD?

cedricsneer · 16/05/2015 06:47

I hate it when people on mn sense that people don't agree with them, and they throw in the term "disgusting" to try to add weight to their argument. It's just emotive nonsense. Hmm

And btw isn't there a campaign in the NHS to be more responsible about using A & E? Nothing you have told us sounds like it remotely warranted a trip to A & E whose resources are stretched so thin. I'm not even sure a gp would be warranted. I say this as someone whose son was knocked unconscious on the trampoline recently. I called the GP, they told me what to check for and how to monitor him and all was well.

ltk · 16/05/2015 06:55

It is over reacting parents like the OP who ensure all the fun is sucked dry from the school experience. Dodgeball is brilliant fun and the kids beg to play it. I love playing it with my class too. Kids do fall over. They trip. They slide on the grass or on gravel. They do the same when we play rounders and football and relay races and running games and cricket and .... Let's ban it all and reduce PE to a series of gentle stretches and some tai chi.

It sounds like the teacher: played dodgeball with her class, noticed your dd was hurt and tried to cheer her up with points, reported the incident to you personally. What a bitch.

BitOutOfPractice · 16/05/2015 06:55

I'm going to say it again op. Calm the fuck down.

It was an accident. A minor minor accident.

You're going to flounce your daughter out of a school that you deem to be perfectly fine for your other children, just to make some point about a teacher that your daughter doesn't like ( who is probably an excellent teacher) with only 6 or 7 weeks left of the school year? Really? Can't you see how utterly ridiculous that is?

BitOutOfPractice · 16/05/2015 07:00

quietasamouse I mentioned the door handle issue on page one. The lock should have what's known as a "classroom function". Key pad from the outside, simple lever handle inside. There should be no chance of ever getting locked INSIDE a classroom, even if the door is locked iyswim. It's designed a. to make egress easy in case of a fire and b. To prevent pupils barricading themselves inside.

youbethemummylion · 16/05/2015 07:28

Apart from the locking in the classroom, dodge ball and not believing your DS tales of other pupils hitting her (all of which will probably be easily cleared up by speaking to the teacher) what else has happened to make you look into moving schools, it can't be distance or you would move all 3 kids. It seems very dramatic when there are only 7 weeks left. Does DO want to move away from all her friends to a new school?

Pipbin · 16/05/2015 08:00

What always amazes me about situations like this is the number of people who simply don't believe their child would ever lie.

fiveacres · 16/05/2015 08:34

What always amazes me is the number of people who insist a teacher never would either.

Pipbin · 16/05/2015 08:39

I'm not saying a teacher never would at all. What I am responding to is earlier where the op says 'why would my child lie?' Some parents seem to believe that their child would never ever tell a lie.
Obviously we should default to believing a child but tempered with the idea that they do lie.

cedricsneer · 16/05/2015 09:01

It's also not about lying but seeing events through the prism of a child. They are not reliable witnesses as situations can seem out of all proportion.

Whilst in certain circs I would always take a child's version of events extremely seriously (eg allegations of abuse), there are other times when a bit of reassurance and putting things in perspective is required. This sounds like exactly one of those times.

Often children need parents to help de-escalate their fears, not buy into them and blow them out of proportion. I cannot see what the teacher has done wrong at all in this instance. The op is putting the worst possible spin on the dodgeball incident by saying that her dd was being bribed rather than rewarded for bravery. Not helpful to the dd imho.

fiveacres · 16/05/2015 09:14

Fair enough, pip :)

But I do always want to listen to my child. I think we're saying the same sort of thing though.

CamelHump · 16/05/2015 09:31

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sammyjayneex · 16/05/2015 10:14

I am planning to move all my children not just one
My child who is now in the school nursery has been offered a place in the school that i want all my children to go to but the other two will still be at the school they are at now but I'm hoping they will be moved. I said I haven't had a problems with my other children's classes just yet but the school overall is poor and its not just me that thinks this, several other parents too. There have been a lot of children leaving this school and I know it's because it's a poor school.

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mintpoppet · 16/05/2015 10:42

OP there will be several parents in EVERY school that think it's poor. Some parents and some children wouldn't be happy anywhere. That's life I'm afraid.

rabbitstew · 16/05/2015 12:50

Trying to cause trouble for the school is not going to get you pushed up the waiting lists, though, sammyjayneex, nor is it going to improve the school. It will just waste everyone's time dealing with a non-event, meaning they take their attention away from actually making improvements. So, stop behaving like a rat who couldn't escape a sinking ship, so decided to go around biting the people trying to work out how to fix it.

sammyjayneex · 18/05/2015 11:44

The main reason I want to move schools is the distance really as it's difficult every morning doing that long trip so it's not because I'm a rat thank you
Why should we have to walk 30 minutes every day when they is a school 5 minutes away from me??

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SoupDragon · 18/05/2015 11:46

Because the school 5 minutes away is full.