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What to do about an irresponsible teacher

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sammyjayneex · 13/05/2015 16:58

So my child's teacher came to me after school and told me my child got hit with a ball during a game of dodge ball which made her fall over and bang her chin on the floor. The teacher said to me my daughter is fine and didn't cry. So we get home and my daughter told me that it was actually the class teacher who threw the ball at my daughter to 'try and get her out of the game' and she said that she did cry coz she got grass and stuff in her mouth. I'm so fuming that a teacher could do this as to be honest a teachers strength is bigger than a child and must have hit hard enough to make her fall. Apparently as the ball hit her side it bounced off her leg and she tripped up and banged her chin and then she went onto tell me the teacher locked her in the power cabin the outer day ( school classrooms are having work done so they are in porter cabins outside locked with a code) my daughter couldn't get out coz there is no way of her opening it herself the teacher has to do it and apparently my daughter was getting her coat and teacher didn't know she was in there but surely she should know how many kids have come out of the Cabin for play time and noticed my daughter hadn't?? Just seems my daughter is always the one who's caught up in this teachers irresponsibility. After she spoke to me about the incident she looked at the PE teacher as I was walking off and said something to him and started laughing. Do you think I should report her?

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sammyjayneex · 14/05/2015 09:22

She didn't give my child any first aid care considering she was bleeding and my daughter first thought it was her thumb but then looked in the mirror and realised it was her mouth
It's disgusting how she just neglected my child's care like that

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PerspicaciaTick · 14/05/2015 09:44

The locked portacabin sounds like a potential health and safety issue that needs looking at. This is the sort of thing the H&S governor would be interested in at our school.
The dodgeball doesn't sound like much of an issue, but you obviously deeply distrust this teacher, so a talk to the HT might reassure you.

soapboxqueen · 14/05/2015 09:51

But you didn't notice either?

Floggingmolly · 14/05/2015 09:53

Neither did your dd, by the sound of it. She thought it was her thumb?

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sammyjayneex · 14/05/2015 09:55

Well I didn't notice considering she had been at school all day and by pick up time it stopped bleeding as any cut would. It wouldn't still be bleeding at pick up at time. I looked in her mouth when she said it hurt and saw he graze then. I will be speaking to the principle because even though it was an accident she didn't care that my child was bleeding and hurt and expected my 8 year old to sort herself out when she should have sorted first aid as she did bang her head as well. Then tried bribing her with 'champion points' just so my child wouldn't cry

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soapboxqueen · 14/05/2015 10:07

I think you should speak to the head teacher since you are obviously very unhappy.

Are you now saying that your dd said to the teacher 'I'm bleeding' and the teacher said "I don't care". There isn't much to be done first aid wise for a graze inside the mouth other than send them to the toilets to wash their mouth out a bit unless it's gushing.

FujimotosElixir · 14/05/2015 10:10

the teacher wasn't honest!

wheresthebeach · 14/05/2015 10:30

The injury doesn't sound serious at all, just the rough and tumble of playing games. Kids can be hit in the face playing catch and get hurt. We can't ban all games, and kids do need to learn to deal with stuff like this.

However, I think the teacher should have told you that she was the one to throw the ball and there should have been an incident slip. We get them all the time for minor things. Yesterday the school phoned me because DD had 3 nose bleeds. They also phone parents if any child bumps their head during playtime. I think it's overkill but then it does keep parents in the loop.

I'd have a chat about communication if I were you...rather than details of the incident.

SoupDragon · 14/05/2015 10:35

I think need to speak to the teacher about your DDs version of events.

00100001 · 14/05/2015 10:54

It sounds like you actually need to talk tot he teacher about what happened. I'm not saying your daughter is lying, but often what kids say happened and what actually happened are different.

For example, she might think that a 'hard' foam ball is hard ball and will says "she used a hard ball" so you're imaging a basketball!

As for the porta cabin - it might just be that the children can't reach the door... or they've been told they're not allowed to open the door... or anything :/

soapboxqueen · 14/05/2015 10:57

Fuji you don't know that the teacher wasn't honest. If they hadn't noticed the injury, because it was inside the child's mouth, why would she fill out an accident report form?

She may have felt who threw the ball was irrelevant.

fortunately · 14/05/2015 11:00

I think your DD would be as well to keep her mouth closed next time she falls over.

It tends to prevent stuff getting in.

rabbitstew · 14/05/2015 11:05

I would speak to the teacher and ask for clarification. If you look at the school's complaints procedure, it is likely in any event to require you to speak first to the class teacher, then if not happy with their response or explanation, to escalate it from there, eg to the headteacher, and finally to the board of governors if not happy with any of the responses. Schools tend to be more constructive if they are dealt with constructively, and on the basis of the information you have given, it seems to me you need more information from the teacher, or to give her a chance to explain herself, before you do anything else.

NickiFury · 14/05/2015 11:08

I agree with fiveacres. Teachers seem to be held in almost saint like regard here on MN more often than not. I find it most . I've worked in a school and had extensive dealings as a parent! probably more so than most as I have two dc with extensive additional needs. I've come across more shouty, dismissive, impatient teachers than I have lovely ones that's for sure.

soapboxqueen · 14/05/2015 11:21

Yes because trying to suggest alternatives to what is at best 2nd hand information, is putting teachers on a pedestal.

The reason people suggest these alternatives is because the perspective of children can be very skewed and they don't see the importance of accurate reporting or vocabulary.

FujimotosElixir · 14/05/2015 11:26

well in th op she wasn't upfront about whst actually happened in the first conversation.

soapboxqueen · 14/05/2015 11:30

She may have not thought it was relevant not lied. Also it sounds like the ops dd tripped over the ball after it hit her. Therefore who threw it would be irrelevant.

FujimotosElixir · 14/05/2015 11:31

oh give over, she wasnt upfront she should have been.

soapboxqueen · 14/05/2015 11:49

Were you there at the time of the incident Fuji?

Crouchendmumoftwo · 14/05/2015 11:59

It was an accident, move on and get over it. Things like this happen all the time. I wouldnt take it personally, it was an accident, you cant wrap your daughter up in cotton wool.

MythicalKings · 14/05/2015 12:06

OP, it wasn't handled well but you really are blowing it our of all proportion.

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sammyjayneex · 14/05/2015 12:12

I'm not wrapping my daughter up in cotton wool. I just don't think this teacher gives a toss.
There is this girl in the lN class ( I ca her golden girl) because she hits my daughter a lot and drags her around and when my daughter tells the teacher the teacher tells my child that the girl in question did no such thing even when she did so is dismissing my child! Makes me wonder why to be honest. This other girl can do no wrong apparently. I get bad vibes from this teacher. I don't know why I just do and it takes a lot for me to dislike someone so it's not just this incident it's other things as well

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Moreisnnogedag · 14/05/2015 12:16

I must admit I'd think this was much about nothing. Tbh kids can get more and more worked up when relaying the incident so i wouldn't hold it as gospel.

Saying that, you obviously have huge issues with her teacher so I think in general you may need to ask for more info. Out of interest, will you believe anything the head or the teacher tell you?

00100001 · 14/05/2015 12:17

Maybe your child is 'that' child in the class?

Moreisnnogedag · 14/05/2015 12:17

Ah cross post.

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