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What to do about an irresponsible teacher

144 replies

sammyjayneex · 13/05/2015 16:58

So my child's teacher came to me after school and told me my child got hit with a ball during a game of dodge ball which made her fall over and bang her chin on the floor. The teacher said to me my daughter is fine and didn't cry. So we get home and my daughter told me that it was actually the class teacher who threw the ball at my daughter to 'try and get her out of the game' and she said that she did cry coz she got grass and stuff in her mouth. I'm so fuming that a teacher could do this as to be honest a teachers strength is bigger than a child and must have hit hard enough to make her fall. Apparently as the ball hit her side it bounced off her leg and she tripped up and banged her chin and then she went onto tell me the teacher locked her in the power cabin the outer day ( school classrooms are having work done so they are in porter cabins outside locked with a code) my daughter couldn't get out coz there is no way of her opening it herself the teacher has to do it and apparently my daughter was getting her coat and teacher didn't know she was in there but surely she should know how many kids have come out of the Cabin for play time and noticed my daughter hadn't?? Just seems my daughter is always the one who's caught up in this teachers irresponsibility. After she spoke to me about the incident she looked at the PE teacher as I was walking off and said something to him and started laughing. Do you think I should report her?

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Floggingmolly · 14/05/2015 19:58

Put her name on the list for your other local schools, op. They'll contact you if they have a place for your dd.

BitOutOfPractice · 14/05/2015 20:09

Op I don't know how to say this kindly. So I'll just say: you are massively overreacting to a non-event and you need to calm right the hell down

lbnblbnb · 14/05/2015 20:16

There is no way, really no way AT ALL, that a classroom would not have had a fire exit that could have been opened from the inside. Seriously. I had the joy of working in some lovely portable classrooms a while ago and they all had fire exits. Even normal classrooms, although you lock them from the outside, have a handle on the inside. I would guess it is precisely so that anyone accidentally locked in can get out.

Sorry, but I think your child is not telling the whole truth. Of course, contact the school if you are concerned, but be prepared to listen as I don't think you have got the whole story.

Galena · 14/05/2015 20:17

And people wonder why there is a shortage of teachers.

CocoaBeans · 14/05/2015 20:18

Blazing88 A&E isn't only for life threatening injuries - it's the only way to get an x-ray for a suspected broken bone after 5pm/at weekends as none of the 5 walk in centres/minor injury clinics near us can do x-rays after that.
OP I don't think you need to go to A&E from what you've said.

wheresthebeach · 14/05/2015 20:25

What Risk says...^

fortunately · 14/05/2015 20:25

Christ op if you really are serious you need to get a grip.

If you want to move your child that badly I'd expect you to at least know how you go about doing it. You sound as if you're running around like a headless chicken.

Either get yourself organised, find out what actually happened, then you can complain/move your dd.

Alternatively, accept that you're overreacting, calm down and move on.

WombatStewForTea · 14/05/2015 20:27

So you're thinking of moving her yet you haven't spoken to the teacher or headteacher about your concerns?!?

Pipbin · 14/05/2015 20:57

So, what we can gather from this is that you don't like your child's teacher.
It would seem that you have looked into moving her to another school, is there a chance of moving her to another class? Or failing that can you home educate?

rabbitstew · 14/05/2015 21:14

I'm not sure your dd not liking the school is an excuse to overreact to everything. It's also impossible to tell how much of your dd being unhappy at school is a result of your obvious dislike of the place!

teacherwith2kids · 14/05/2015 21:56

As the incident happened yesterday, and a full school day has passed, I presume that you have found a moment to call or visit the school to discuss your concerns, or at least to book an appointment to do so?

From the level of your concern, as shown on here, I had expected to log on tonight to see a full report of your conversations with the teacher and the head, and am genuinely surprised to see nothing of the kind - just the same worries, escalated to another level but not leading to any action whatsoever.

Speak to the school. Then decide how to move forward.

teacherwith2kids · 14/05/2015 22:00

(I would also add that the vast majority of teachers are not saints deserving of being on a pedestal, nor dire sinners. We are ordinary, fallible folk, with good days and bad days, with professional pride and private weaknesses..)

Littlefish · 14/05/2015 22:52

"I am actually worried sending my child to actually tomorrow because I know my child isn't happy in that school but local authority will not move her!!!"

I know you are concerned, but you are massively over-reacting. Just go and have a conversation with either the teacher or the headteacher.

Are you in England? If you are, the Local Authority cannot refuse to move her.

teacherwith2kids · 15/05/2015 07:35

Have you applied formally for a place in another school? If it is full, you can then appeal, but remember that you are appealing FOR the other school not AGAINST the school you have, so you need to think of positive arguments why the other school is better.

If your child is in KS2, then it will be a balance of prejudice case - the new school CAN admit over a class size of 30 IF the disbenefit to the school is smaller than the benefit to your DD.

Post for advice on moving schools and appeals here - there are plenty of experts who will explain clearly how it works, how to present your case etc.

But I would still say that ABSOLUTELY the first step is to speak to your child's teacher, and then to the head. Apart from anything else, evidence of exhausting all possible avenues with your child's current school can provide part of your 'needing to move school' dossier for appeal time.

dustyovaries · 15/05/2015 09:30

This gave me a chuckle. The teacher probably never noticed she was bleeding. At 8 I would expect the child to spit out the grass and get on with it. Worse happens at playtime. Of course you are well within your rights to call up the school, ask for the teacher's head on a stick and stop those lethal games of dodgeball forever.

Sounds like you have deeper issues with the school and are look for ammo tbh.

Moreisnnogedag · 15/05/2015 09:49

Come on now OP. This is a bit much. You genuinely seem so wound up by what -to the vast majority - has been relatively minor incidents.

Try and look at the situation more calmly and rationally. Is it possible for your dd 'not liking' school to at least be partly reinforced by your reaction to her tales? Do you suddenly sit down and go over each and every detail which always uncovers some new unexpected occurrence which upsets you?

Alternatively if you truly believe that your dd is being bullied or picked on, are you doing everything you can to help her feel better and have you done what you can to identify the issue with the teacher?

Moreisnnogedag · 15/05/2015 09:50

At the moment it does just seem like you're getting yourself all worked up 'and then and then and then'

sammyjayneex · 15/05/2015 10:19

I have spoken to the school and they have said they will call me with an appointment as your not really allowed to go direct to the teacher and start asking her you have to go through the head teacher which I'm waiting to see. As for moving her schools. I have applied and applied every term, I have gone to appeals and they have turned me down 3 times. The school they are at now is a long distance away from my house so that's one of the main reasons of moving her anyway. The the school I want her to go to is just up the road (5 min walk) but it's full because it's the best school in my area

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00100001 · 15/05/2015 10:24

good luck getting her moved :)

sammyjayneex · 15/05/2015 10:28

What's the pint in making spiteful unhelpful sarcastic comments
'Good luck getting her moved'
Very immature

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00100001 · 15/05/2015 10:29

it wasn't... it was genuine...

I do wish you luck, you're clearly unhappy with your DD at the school, so good luck, I hope it works out for you :)

MmeMorrible · 15/05/2015 11:32

Ahh so you think making out the teacher has some sort of mad vendetta against your daughter may be better grounds for achieving the school move that you want? This is very crooked thinking.

I can understand you wanting to move her to the school you think is the best in the area and that is closer to home but I think your attitude towards the current school is terrible and is affecting your daughters view of her school and her teacher too. However much you would prefer the other school, you need to try and work with the one you have. If you don't it's your daughter that will lose out.

sammyjayneex · 15/05/2015 13:30

You have not seen the state of the school though? The off-stead report isn't brilliant. There a lot of issues with it and my daughter was happy at this school up until this new school year. So something is making her happy and it has nothing to do with me not liking it. The Whole reason I don't like it is because it's making her unhappy. I have another daughter in that school and she seems happy and I have a daughter in the nursery part of the school too and shes happy so it's my 8 year olds class that is a problem.

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rabbitstew · 15/05/2015 13:38

So you only want to move one of your children?

sugarhoops · 15/05/2015 14:02

So I'm confused....either it's the whole school that's rubbish, or just your daughters class? You want to move your 8yo from the school, but keep your other 2 kids there?? How will that work out with school drops?

Reading between the lines, I suspect you have an issue with your 8yo's class teacher? Have you raised any issues before? We only have 1 wk til half term, then another 7 weeks and she's done with that teacher.

I have 3 mum friends who are school secretaries.... They all know and discuss families in the local area who are 'known' for kicking up a fuss at anything and everything and who frequently request school moves, and don't get them.....just sayin'.....

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