Yr 1. End of Year Reports / Levels - State Schools

[allmixedupreally]

If your child is ending year one this year and you have received their report, would you mind sharing their levels? Also if you received the phonics check results. I was expecting dd's to be included in the report but it wasn't so will ask teacher.
Reading =1A
Writing =1B
Maths = 1A
Effort = excellent all the way.
I am very pleased with the whole report and so is she, but it would be nice to have a rough idea how others in the same year did. Thanks

I don't think that there was anything wrong with your post raisinboys. I don't see anywhere that you said people shouldn't post their children's levels if they were good or that they shouldn't be proud of their children's academic successes.

I read it as a timely and much needed reminder to anyone who was concerned about their children's results and finding this thread that they should take it with a massive pinch of salt. As usual on this forum, it isn't representative and the bell curve of attainment is shifted massively to the right. Nearly 2/3 of the children on this thread have reached the expected level for the end of year 2 in reading already and a significant number are performing at a level that would be seen as acceptable at the end of year 3.

Rafals
Brilliantly put...my sentiments exactly.

It's a bit like a thread asking how long it took you to conceive you DCs will always get a lot of answers of 1 month / 1 night or 2 years plus. Most people would not bother to reply to say 3-8 months, which is probably more representative of most peoples actual experience, simply because it isn't that interesting. So the vast majority of people who's DCs got 1b - 2c wouldn't bother to respond as their answer, although more usual, isn't that interesting!

Raisinboys post might have been trying to reassure some but it was absolutely unnecessary to put down others at the same time. How else can "dizzy heights of level 3 by the age of 5" or "rarefied world of the MN prodigy" be interpreted?

When I mentioned academic success, I was talking about how this type of achievement is beaten down by the majority on mumsnet as if there's an unwritten rule that everyone has to be at the same levels. In its simplest form it is doing well in an academic assessment it doesn't matter the age. It might be ludicrous to you but each to their own.

Ghoul I posted my DD's levels not because it is interesting. I am proud of her and pleased with her results but I appreciated others taking time to post theirs. It gives an indication of how she's doing compared to her peers. Unfortunately, I can't ask other parents in school and we don't get given average levels which would have been helpful in addition to the expected level. And I know the usual mumsnet line ... why should I be interested in how others are doing .

Did it put down others or just state the facts? I think the later ...

I agree with Ghoul when faced with all these "exceptional children" with proud parents, others whose child may not have reached the dizzy heights of high level 2 or even level 3 in Y1, may not want to mention their child's achievement, even though they are equally proud.

Well. I think it's the 'disparaging' tone in general in mn that gets to people. The rants about how people at this time of year start posting 'how proud I am of darling x for achieving so much at school etc'. Isn't that the point of fb? To share our lives with these people we call 'friends'?

And that usually degenerates quite quickly into the 'yah and my darling Festus is now in Mensa, aged 2...' Type of comments which are really uncalled for.

It's easy enough to ignore or hide the posts, so if you have friends like that then do it.

So the same thing here I guess... Op posted asking those questions, some people obliged, presumably because they were interested in other answers as well. Just like others don't because they aren't interested, for many other reasons!

I think raisins was right in that we shouldn't take these numbers to heart, since kids will develop at different rates and will have different interests anyway. But that does not mean that those who have supposedly achieved higher should be told to hide away and not be proud. I think they should be celebrated too. After all, they've worked hard and achieved too.

mrz, that's very intereesting as they made it look on our report as if 1a was a natioanl expectation when I see 1b is also regarded as fine by most schools. I will bring it up tonight when I speak to the teachers, haha!

I'm not saying you shouldn't be proud; we are all proud. Just that people shouldn't worry if their DC's have a level 1 at this early stay just because the respondents to this thread suggests level 2 is the norm when it's not :)

frutilla the only national expectation wrt KS1 is that children are expected to reach level 2 (used to be 2b but I think they changed it) at the end of year 2 and should make 2 full levels progress across the key stage. If you assume linear progress you could extrapolate to 1 full level/3 sublevels per year which would give level 1/1b as an 'expected 'level' at the end of year 1.

I think some schools are using 2 sublevels per year as an expectation of progress. while it looks like higher aspirations in terms of attainment in year 1, it's actually just a lower expectation of progress in year 2. Unless they are suggesting all children should be achieving 2a or above and that 2b is below national expectations, which would be ridiculous.

No one here has said level 2 is the norm. It's just what was achieved by the dc. There were many who've written their children achieved level 1s too. No one here has said 'ah well, we've got a 2, you've got a 1... Plenty to catch up now there's the holidays!!!!'

Ilelo

I have not put anyone down?

If you wish to interpret my comments in that way, such is your right. My posts are clear and do not really require high level or forensic comprehension ability to understand! (Now that IS a dig, just in case you're struggling to interpret)

I have at no point suggested that people should not celebrate their children's achievements. Really, does MN look like a forum that doesn't celebrate achievement?

Signing off now as I am off to celebrate my DS's achievements in the real world, with people I know, teachers he loves and his friends who have all achieved much in many and varied ways; academic, social, cultural, sporting, scientific - great kids who are more than the sum of their level 6's. And yes, there were loads of level 6's and that's just great.

Slightly confused...could any expert shed any light on this?

DD achieved Maths 1a, Reading 2b, writing 2b. She 'got' reading very early and is what I would describe as an early free reader now. However.....she 'failed' the phonics test (28/40)?

It simply means she hasn't been taught to decode properly. She may appear to read simple books well but she will struggle in future if her phonics knowledge is poor.

Good you were able to get that tirade out Raisin. At least your response has clarified the intention behind your original post. Hopefully you feel better, wouldn't want anything in the way of your well deserved celebrations.

Really mrz? If one of your pupils had made similar inference from reading a passage, you would agree the writer was stating facts, really?

Ilelo - I inferred exactly the same as you did and although perhaps RaisinBoys didn't mean it that way, it certainly offended me.
The OP asked for people to post their dc's levels so she could compare. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the levels the OP's child achieved, they are exactly where a year 1 child should be and I for one would have been happy for my children to come out with those levels. Plenty of people have posted on here to say their children achieved level 1's so I don't see the problem.
My twins are very academic, I haven't discussed their levels with any other parents in real life, I haven't posted anything about it on Facebook whereas a lot of my friends have, because I wouldn't want people to think I was bragging about it. However when someone on here specifically asks people to post their children's results I certainly won't be apologising because they did well.

Ilelo - I inferred exactly the same as you did and although perhaps RaisinBoys didn't mean it that way, it certainly offended me.
The OP asked for people to post their dc's levels so she could compare. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the levels the OP's child achieved, they are exactly where a year 1 child should be and I for one would have been happy for my children to come out with those levels. Plenty of people have posted on here to say their children achieved level 1's so I don't see the problem.
My twins are very academic, I haven't discussed their levels with any other parents in real life, I haven't posted anything about it on Facebook whereas a lot of my friends have, because I wouldn't want people to think I was bragging about it. However when someone on here specifically asks people to post their children's results I certainly won't be apologising because they did well.

Argh sorry for the double post, typing on my phone.

Ilelo & sockpinching

"Tirade"? How so? (clearly name calling and insults is your default? Accuracy is not.)

Definition of tirade - "long, angry speech of criticism or abuse"

Perhaps you should refer to your dictionary for a more appropriate noun.

Here's an adjective for the pair of you, to keep you going, with synonyms for good measure; stupid, unintelligent, dense, foolish, vacuous, vapid, obtuse.

Now if you are in any doubt THIS is a tirade.

RaisinBoys - You really have quite serious issues. Perhaps you feel it is normal to be nasty and abrasive (particularly from behind the comfort of your computer screen), as I would hope you don't talk to people in such a way in real life. Anyway, I came on and answered the OP's original question, I have no reason to stay on this thread and listen to your rubbish - so goodbye.

The OP wants others to share levels to compare her own child against? How does comparing against a self selecting minority help her help her own child in any way?

Nothing that the OP wrote suggested that she wanted to use this information to help her child - I took it that she was curious to know what other DCs achieved. OP later asked the % achieving different levels in Y1, but of course that is a tricky question as it is not reported nationally.

There is a mismatch between the ratio of levels reported on this thread and those achieved nationally in RL. As I posted earlier, between 20 - 30ish% achieve L3+ in year 2 (depending on subject area), which means that roughly 70% - 80% achieve the expected levels 1b/a at the end of year 1. On this thread about 60% are L2+ and only 40% at the expected 1b/a level or below.

The irony is that this 60% do not meet the criteria of a MN prodigy - spend any time on the Gifted forum and you will see that working 4 years ahead is the bear minimum required because on that forum only a 'kooky' genius is deserving of the term gifted let alone the term prodigy.

Actually the other irony is that RaisenBoy was keen to use her DC to demonstrate that if you 'only' achieve L2 at the end of KS1 your child can still achieve a L5 or the relatively far rarer L6 at the end of KS2. Well what about those children who only achieve a L4 (or lower) at the end of KS2? Why is it less concerning to hear about children achieving L5/6 at the end of KS2 versus children achieving L2/3 at the end of year 1 if your child is one of the majority achieving the expected levels?

The fact is that while 15% - 18% more children achieve a L5 than have achieved a L3 at KS1, most children achieving a L2 at the end of KS1 will not go onto achieve a L6 at the end of KS2.

by which I mean bare minimum!

Oh dear Raisin ... surely you haven't misinterpreted my post like I did yours initially. I only meant your 2nd helped explain the 1st better. This 3rd one makes it even clearer. The beauty/tragedy of written words is the reader is left to draw their own conclusions.

Will you agree we've both derailed this thread enough?

My DC was level 1a for reading, writing, maths and got 38/40 on her phonics test.