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Reception class 'Frozen' merchandise pressure

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mrsjavierbardem · 05/06/2014 10:32

Dd is desperate for one of these very hard to get £40 Elsa or Anna dresses. It sounds like most of the girls will have one soon and be wearing them to parties etc. dh is adamant we shouldn't cave in to the pressure . But it is hard isn't it?
Anyone else standing firm against the Disney product thing? It is hard to be firm when so many girls have them.
Any wisdom on this subject would be appreciated.

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Geraldthegiraffe · 05/06/2014 10:33

Its really hard isn't it.

We gave in on the basis she loves Frozen.. but its only reception and the beginning of it all isn't it?

redskyatnight · 05/06/2014 10:39

My DC know that they only get non-essential (especially items more than a couple of quid) items on Christmas and birthdays, or they save up their pocket money. The peer pressure thing is only going to get worse!

gorionine · 05/06/2014 10:41

Do the other children really ALL have one? Smile
as I discovered over the years the "But mum I will be the only one without one!" is hardly ever accurate.

My advise is follow your instinct, sometimes you will have to give in others you won't but the peer pressure is definitely IMHO not a powerful enough one. It is insane/unachievable to always shave what others do all the time.

gorionine · 05/06/2014 10:42

*have not shave

OurMiracle1106 · 05/06/2014 10:46

There are lots of pretty frozen tops and I saw one for my niece and it's only 7 quid online. You don't have to go to the Disney store and spend a fortune.

mrsjavierbardem · 05/06/2014 10:48

It's not yet all but it's getting towards most of the girls so the pressure mounts. I agree the birthday/Xmas approach is great . It is only the beginning though!
Thanks for feedback, I would love to hear from some more 'no's though !

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Geraldthegiraffe · 05/06/2014 10:48

I think this is an odd case as normally I'd get a 12 quid one in asda but htey really have all sold out and been hard to get since the beginning of the year.

Its not the case that everyone has one but htere are frozen birthday parties springing up... and some people are making their own.

curiousgeorgie · 05/06/2014 10:49

I usually give in if she really seems to love something rather than just wanting for the sake of just getting something.

She is Frozen obsessed and I did buy her the dress (well, both of my best friends found them for me and she ended up with 2!) and I have found that most of the girls that come for tea / that she goes to also have one.

My other DD is having a party at the end of this month and I think every girl is coming as Elsa!

bucketofbathtoys · 05/06/2014 11:27

Thankfully my DD hates dresses although she did spot them in Argos catalogue £15!!

bucketofbathtoys · 05/06/2014 11:29

I would / will make DD earn it via her sticker chart - what irritates me is that they are made of cheap stuff but cost a fortune. H&M had some half decent tops but mainly sold out ...

AgaPanthers · 05/06/2014 11:32

You don't have to buy a Disney one, they are a bit polyester-y aren't they. £5 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GIRLS-BLUE-SATIN-ROSETTE-TRIM-CHIFFON-PUFF-HEM-PARTY-DRESS-age-3-4-/310972808175

PastSellByDate · 05/06/2014 11:33

Mrsjavierbardem

This kind of thing - a princess costume - is adored by young girls - so your DD isn't being pressured into it - she probably would dearly love one.

Our solution with anything >£10 in value has always been - wait for your birthday/ Christmas. We've also tipped off Aunties/ Uncles/ Grandparents that DDs were into whatever disney film/ tv show at the moment before birthdays/ Christmas.

I find this very useful - because it does sort out what is desperately wanted (a bike, a DS, etc...) from what is a passing fancy.

I also thinking waiting a bit for something and then getting it, especially if you've pretty well given up hope or it's a total surprise, is fabulous as a kid.

Now my DD2 (age 9 now) still dresses up when friends come round and we hand down her smaller costumes to friends with younger children. We've had a lot of fun with her dress-up boxes over the years - and sometimes have the pleasure of Cinderella joining us for dinner in her glass slippers. DD2 has had a lot of use out of her costume box - she's converted Cinderella's gown into a Tudor outfit for Tudor day at her school - covering it over in printed out Tudor roses. She's gone trick-or-treating and to dress-up parties in them. So overall - that has been a good use of a relatively expensive costume.

Going forward - I think the way to handle pressure to get your DC the 'in' or 'cool' thing - is to talk about value for money, quality of material (will it really hold up/ survive washings) and genuine need. My DD1 (aged 11) has a few fashionable issues - but in general she's fairly relaxed. She knows our clothes budget is X - and it's better to get several pairs of shorts/ leggings/ plain t-shirts - than go for a few expensive logo-ed disney/ addidas/ nike clothing. The other thing I can assure you - having had a DD push for the Rapunzel sweatshirt at age 9 - is that fairly soon they're too big to be seen in princess things. (I take that story out and remind DD1 whenever she presses me for something in a shop).

HTH

Soveryupset · 05/06/2014 11:46

It's a balance isn't it. I have had this more from the boys (with games especially) than from the girls - not sure why.

The boys are really drawn into stuff like Minecraft and Xbox/Wii and were really upset to be the only ones in the class not to have such equipment. I ended up caving in when DS1 was 7 and got a Wii - but he still didn't get the playstation/DS/Xbox etc that everyone does seem to have in his class - I think we reached a good compromise.

I think resisting for a while will let you really see if it is peer pressure - in which case she will give up until the next fad - or whether it is really something she wants long term.

I suspect it's a fad until the next Disney film comes out. I don't really understand the girl peer pressure thing as for some very lucky and odd reason my two girls have never once demanded anything, and are the most un-materialistic - can't claim it's my parenting as the boys are mad for gadgets/latest cool thing/games.

stealthsquiggle · 05/06/2014 11:52

"That's nice, put it on your birthday list" has always been my standard response to such things.

DD got (for her birthday) at a similar age a non-branded dressing up dress which is reversible pirate/princess - she has had loads of wear out of it and it has done a couple of parties even in Y2.

You will probably find that twirly and princessy are more important than it being actually the Frozen branded one (or maybe that's just our school/my wishful thinking) but I do think owning a princess dress is a rite of passage for most small girls. Do you know anyone who could make her one? That way it wouldn't be up for direct comparison to anyone else's.

EatDessertFirst · 05/06/2014 11:56

We are a house of Disney lovers (sorry!!) but like PP, major purchases like the dresses tend to wait for birthday and Christmas for our DD. We do buy the DVDs when they come out though. I don't think well I hope that she is materialistic. We aren't rolling in cash and she definately doesn't get everything she sees.

I've always tried to explain that sometimes we just can't afford the thing she MUST have. When/if she does get it for her birthday/christmas, her reaction is priceless! I think she appreciates it more.

DS on the other hand couldn't care less about having 'certain' things. He plays mostly with some hand-me-down 40-year old Corgi trucks.

Geraldthegiraffe · 05/06/2014 12:07

We would so have done it as a birthday/christmas thing if it wasn't for the face my girls birthdays are v close to xmas!

kilogramlady · 05/06/2014 12:09

We have taken a quiet but firm stand against Disney princess products in our house. Our issue is not primarily about cost, but about what society presents is “normal” for girls to like. We don’t want to bring our children up to conform and follow fashions. For children of this age, it seems very wrong to us that there is already such a big divide between what is expected of girls (dress up like princesses) and boys (go play football). I know this might sound odd to some to say this, but to us it feels very unnatural.

DD1 is YR. We’ve done our best to encourage her to be different and to choose what she likes and not what everyone else does. (“Olivia and the fairy princesses” is a good book about being a princess in your own, interesting way.) I think some of our tactics are not very subtle (“I reckon it would be more interesting to be an astronaut than a princess, what do you think?” and “Blue is the colour of the sky, isn’t that beautiful?” and “Oooh doesn’t Daddy look good in a pink shirt?”) and I guess we’ve always actively tried to counterbalance what we see as pink-princess prejudice. I think it is really hard to distinguish between what a child truly wants herself from outside influence, whether good or bad. And I would accept that sometimes I’m replacing one influence (from school) with another (from home). For example, when I realised how flimsy and falling-off-her-feet her pretty, flower, flashing-light Clarks shoes were, I decided it was going to be T-bar Kickers from now on. Of course, she didn’t want them at first, but after I called them “the special bouncy shoes” and ordered a pair for me to try on, she was desperate for them! Because she is so positive about them, I haven’t had to worry about her being the only one in the playground wearing T-bars, because she’s so proud of them. She showed them off to her teacher. I think pride goes far to keep the bullies away. It might seem that I’m forcing my ideas on her sometimes, I do realise that. What I’m hoping to do in the long term however is to encourage her to find her own way in these things.

My standard technique for a request for an item I don’t like—like a princess costume—would be to first let her know that I have reservations. I’ll be open to the possibility of getting it, but talking honestly with her about my reasons for thinking its not a good idea, like the cost and whether it is really nice or not, whether it is well made, whether it is boring to have the same as everyone else, whether there’s not something more exciting to have. She tends to lose interest if she doesn’t think her parents like it. We might go on a special shopping trip or search the internet for alternatives and usually, although not always, end up with something much less icky. I think it is important not to say “no” to everything, because that may have a negative backlash. (And I’m not expecting these techniques to work as well on DD2, who has a very different temperament. She is much more strong-willed, so I expect she’ll be much less likely to want what others do in the first place, but on the occasions that she does it’ll be near impossible to change her mind!)

Well that was longer than I expected. I don’t post much and would be grateful if posters would be kind if they disagree with our parenting technique!

plantsitter · 05/06/2014 12:12

I have a soft spot for frozen (though we haven't been pestered for a dress yet) but I have found that explaining to DD why I don't want to buy her Barbies - because I want her to like herself as she is and not be oppressed by the aspiration to be something that doesn't exist - helps me. Of course she doesn't know what the heel I'm talking about but it makes me firm in my resolve and that's the important thing in these circumstances!

Galena · 05/06/2014 12:16

This is when I'm pleased that DD doesn't like films or dressing up...

curiousgeorgie · 05/06/2014 12:22

I really don't get the whole 'we don't buy disney in our house' etc.

A blue dressing up outfit is pretty inoffensive.

Kif · 05/06/2014 12:29

Frozen is the one to go for, though - if you are sensitive to indoctrinating your girls into subservient femininity. The main relationship in the film is the sisters - and Elsa is both the villain and the hero - with awesome powers.

I would cave - but maybe look around for a cheaper version (someone recently linked to handmade Frozen tutus?)

AngelsWithSilverWings · 05/06/2014 12:30

Every little girl at my DDs school is desperate for an Elsa dress. To know of two who have one. There are a lot of mums actively trying but failing to get one. One mum queued for an hour at the Disney store at 8am on delivery day to get one. She has two daughters but was rationed to one!

My DD wants one and I've given up on the Disney version which would have been her main birthday present. Instead I've bought one from a local dressmaker advertising on Facebook who makes an "Elsa inspired" dress. It's much nicer than the Disney version and you can get them made to your own specification for £26 .I got one that was ready made for £20.

I don't feel any pressure to get one - she has been transfixed by everything Frozen ever since she saw it at the cinema. We had no idea it would capture her imagination so much and I enjoy seeing her so immersed in something.

JustJazz · 05/06/2014 12:41

OP- you can pre-order (for July delivery) the cheapy Elsa costume from Sports Direct for under £15 (I think). If it were me, I would probably order the cheap one (& then hide it) & make sure DD earns it with a sticker chart, making sure it's suitably worked for. My DD has to do things like set the table, load the washing machine etc. We do 2 stars per pound as a conversion rate.

I sympathize- all DDs class are into Frozen, although the dress thing hasn't come up as only 1 girl has one (& that was made by her Mum). The school also has Frozen sing-a-longs too!

I spent years avoiding the princess thing & DD wasn't interested anyway, but since starting school, well, it's all about Disney Princess. DD does have a lot of unusual interests as well, so I don't make a big thing out of it- it's a question of balance.

plus2new · 05/06/2014 12:46

Where do I find the Sports Direct pre-order one JustJazz? I'm on the site but can't see it.

(sorry for thread hijack)

plus2new · 05/06/2014 12:49

Found it! They aren't doing Anna which is a pity.