Reception class 'Frozen' merchandise pressure

[mrsjavierbardem]

Dd is desperate for one of these very hard to get £40 Elsa or Anna dresses. It sounds like most of the girls will have one soon and be wearing them to parties etc. dh is adamant we shouldn't cave in to the pressure . But it is hard isn't it?
Anyone else standing firm against the Disney product thing? It is hard to be firm when so many girls have them.
Any wisdom on this subject would be appreciated.

Who says that letting your child enjoy Frozen will encourage them to aspire to the likes of Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus?? Two completely different things.

IMO children learn more when they're exposed to different (age appropriate) things and allowed to have a discussion on them as needed. They're going to have exposure to these things at school, at a friend's house, when out in stores... isn't it better to allow it to some extent and discuss what aspects you think are good and bad? Rather than pretend it doesn't exist because you don't like it?

DD was full on Disney Princesses from about age 3 to age 6. Considering that she has a 'Tom boy' mum that wears combats and boots to work I was astounded to have a pink girly daughter .

However, by the time she was yr1 she was utterly disdainful of the whole 'princess' idea and hates anything 'character', whether Disney, Dreamworks or even Hello Kitty. She'll just about tolerate Monster High.

My worry now she is 9 is that she is 'growing up' a little too fast. Lots of sexy dancing, learning the words to Little Mix and 1D songs et al - oh and making up her own song that are about girls looking 'fine' and boys liking them. In some ways I wish she'd go back to the princesses.

OP, like a previous poster, we had a very easy way to see if DD actually liked something or was just succumbing to peer pressure. She has her 'own' money - pocket money and birthday money etc. If she desperately wanted a certain item we weren't keen on getting we'd say "well you could buy it out of your piggy bank money". 9 times out of 10 she would change her mind. It's easy to spend our money on rubbish, but she was strangely opposed to spending her own . It also means that the stuff she does buy with her own cash is played with to absolute death - her roller skates and Nerf gun spring to mind.

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I'm not sure I've expressed myself very well on this thread. My problem with 'traditional' Disney is the princessy nature of the girl roles, plus the absolutely gargantuan merchandise machine that makes parents like the OP concerned about whether her DD needs a £40 piece of polyester.

There seems to be an evangelism about traditional Disney that makes me uncomfortable, it's all so 'plastic', for want of a better word.

Not at all against things purely because they're popular. DD is too young for Harry Potter, and I haven't read all of them so I might be out of my depth talking about it, but I do remember that at least intelligence, humour and bravery were valued among the female characters, rather than just their looks.

DD loves Pixar, by the way, which I know is Disney by extension, and also Dreamworks, but the roles for girls there seem so much cooler, and she isn't hankering after a £40 Ginormica costume. Sadly.

Disney Princesses are definately portrayed with bravery, humour and intelligence.

Mulan is a warrior?!
Pocohontas, wise and brave.
Merida is from a film called Brave!
Rapunzel leaves the tower and stands up for herself, knocks a man out...
Anna leaves the men at the castle and goes to find her sister.
Tiana, Alice, Ariel?! They're all intelligent, humorous & brave.

If you're thinking of Snow White & Cinderella, they're more a portrayal of the times they were written. But still completely lovely stories.

More recent princesses are amazing, and Disney even improved them. If the story hadn't been changed, Rapunzel would have been sitting in a tower waiting for a prince.

But Frozen is an 'adaption' of The Snow Queen and is nowhere near as good. They got rid of all the women (the witch, princess, robber girl and Finn Woman and Lapp Woman) and replaced them with Kristoff and Olaf.

Who says that letting your child enjoy Frozen will encourage them to aspire to the likes of Britney Spears and Miley Cyrus?? confused Two completely different things.

Not really, those are two women who were part of the Disney machinery when they were children. Everyone loves an innocent Disney Princess, lots of people love the Mickey Mouse Club (still oh so innocent was Britney Spears back then), everyone thinks Hannah Montana is a nice wholesome popstar for tweenies to listen to. Oh look, those girls are growing up, let's have a countdown in the papers for their 16 birthday (really, let's think about how fucking awful that is). And here they are wanting to break away from their wholesome innocent image by going to the opposite extreme: Britney singing 'Hit me Baby One More Time' in her sexed up schoolgirl uniform and Miley Cyrus doing whatever she does with a wrecking ball and twerking on national TV. Yeah, Disney princesses aren't at all a gateway drug to teach girls their role in life is to be a member of the sex class (because really, why are we making toddler girls watch romances, surely they want adventures like their brothers at that age???).

Argh!! The big Elsa dress fits the Elsa child fine, the Anna dress is too long for my little one. Anyone have a 3-4 size dress who would like to swap for 5-6...?

Well then I guess you can't let your children watch ANY television with live child actors, as you never know what some of them might grow up to be - off the rails, druggies, drunks, bad influences.

And don't let them listen to any music from the younger set either, as you never know what those youths will grow up to be.

Why not just let them enjoy things, and if you see something developing into what could be a bad influence, talk to your child about it and how it can derail someone's future and use it as a "the choices you make as you grow up can influence the rest of your life" talk. Then you can even teach them (perhaps) about empathy, so they don't sneer at those who have either made bad choices or dealt with life badly, but empathise with them and hope they can recover and make better choices in future. You know... teaching them to eventually be an adult?

A womb, disney films are full of wonderful humour...they all come from wonderful stories!

some of the touches are sheer brilliance.

they are works of art and utterly charming. the children mostly watch them and enjoy them its you as an adult who is confering all this other rubbish on them.

surely your dc have full lives with school, other activities, they read books, watch tv programs....do gymnastics? really is one disney film, every now and then really going to turn them into britney?

kilogramgirl you might enjoy 'There's a Good Girl' by Marianne Grubacker.

My DD's birthday list for her 6th birthday was make up, perfume & high heels. The only one of those items I wear is perfume, sometimes, so it's not mimicking me. When I ask her why she wants make up she said 'so I look prettier'. I absolutely see that as part of the princess continuum.