year 1 phonics check

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Does anyone know if this is done in the summer term, or is there no set time for it? Also what exactly is it they check? That they can decode a word rather than read? It was mentioned at the start of the year but nothing since!
Thank you

teachers in my school thought it difficult for the kids and that makes sense. It's hard for kids to decode words when they're just starting out. Adults forget how difficult it is to learn to read.

They aren't just starting out though luvmy3kids they have been learning to read for TWO years when they take the check and the words aren't exactly challenging.

incidently 92% of my class passed the check (only one scored just 32)

"when they're just starting out".

Most will be at the end of their 6th term in school, and few will have done fewer than 4.

It's not like yr1s havent had reading tests in the past. My ds had reading age test (burton i think) which was just reading a list of words. Its the same test as we had back in the 60s /70s.
It's not a test of phonics but it's the same principle of a child reading a list of words.

Luvmy3kids - I think you are being fobbed off by your teachers tbh. It sounds like they are making loads of excuses for kids not doing well

Bruffin - DD did the Burt reading test at school a fortnight ago too. That took much longer than the phonics check

I don't think mine have done reading tests at school. and I agree they aren't just starting out. they start (or should start) doing phonics over 18 months before the phonics test.

I only knew that ds did the burt test because i helped with reading and saw the results written down. We werent told tgat had done them and never told results. That was when ds was yr 1 and he is now 18.

DD is in yr1 and she told me a couple of weeks ago she "read a load of words."

Her teacher told me the results a couple of days ago (I did not ask).

Just because 92% of you class passed doesn't mean anything. Teachers mark their own tests.

Yes, but who cares? If we want a realistic assessment of our children's abilities to read made up words then we can make some words up and ask our children to read them. And if we don't (and I suspect that most of us don't) then we won't.

It's no biggie.

Gizmo is correct - the data is unreliable. The data suggests that many teachers weren't completely honest and that's why the DFE won't release the threshold until after the test.

Just because 92% of you class passed doesn't mean anything. Teachers mark their own tests.

Oh, but it does. My own ds's school has just gone into RI because of this data and the inspection it triggered. Ofsted inspect the teaching to check it matches the assessment data and LEAs also moderate judgements. As previously stated, the non-publication of the pass mark relates to the spike in the pass mark but the powers that be are all over the data - it most certainly does not mean nothing.

Yeah, but its harder for 6 year olds than adults. And it must be really boring. I wouldn't be troubled at all if my 6 year old didn't focus the whole test - she's just a baby. You are very demanding of a young child

I'm sorry - is this the same child you claim has the stamina to sit a test and achieve a 2a - contrary to her teacher's assessment of a 2c? Your posts don't match up.

In my DC school it is not the class teachers (yr1) who administer the test/screening. However, it is members of staff that the kids are familiar with, so no the class teacher does not mark the test in my DC school.

Surely by the time a child is in yr1 they are used to doing assessments, writing tasks, numeracy work independently which takes far longer than the phonics screening

Parents not interested in their DC reading new words? Really?

Don't they listen to their children read? Or do CG's "most" parents (who don't care about ability to read a previously unknown word) just make their DC stick to books which use only words they have seen before? How dull and repetitive; I'm amazed any children limited in that way develop any interest in reading as such an approach sounds utterly stultifying.

It's not hard to mark when children can read all 40 words effortlessly gizmo

luvmy3kids if your child struggled with the 5 mins or so of the phonics check how did they manage for the 1 hour of the maths test with the tutor on your other thread?

Yes simpson I administered the check in the first year as Literacy coordinator not as the class teacher

But you didn't ever check your own class?

Incidentally, I find the: you tell me the pass mark and I'll tell you what score my class got hysterical.

Since I was teaching older children CG why would I check my own class?

As the phonics check is subject to external moderation (a LEA advisor sitting in while the teacher administers the check) those teachers who may consider cheating the system are taking huge risks.

It's a moot point, but somebody was referring to CG's new words upthread somewhere, in the context of new words being of no interest to CG's "most parents". Perhaps I didn't make it clear in my original post (I now don't know where that is) but the new words in question are random alien words, not new English words. I'm sure most parents are interested in the latter. I'm not so sure about the former.

I would have thought the yr1 class teacher would be busy teaching the other 29 children in the classroom rather than administering the phonics check.

Yr1 kids are used to being called out of class to read with volunteers (me), intervention/extension work, go on errands etc so they are usually quite happy to go off out of the class.

IIRC doesn't an LEA bod come in and collect the phonics screening papers (once done)??