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Infant School pushing to report me to SS for neglect. Can they do that?

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pylonic · 08/01/2013 18:40

My DD age 5.5 has had a poor lateness record since the beginning of Year 1. No excuses really, I only lived a 9 minute walk from school but we were late almost every day for at least 6 months. I had trouble sleeping but not to the point of Insomnia, just kept oversleeping through the alarm clock most times (dreaded snooze button).

She's also had some absence, genuine though, illness and doc's appointments.

Last year I was advised by letter that unless lateness improved the school would be referring us to a welfare officer.
3 months ago we had to move out of the village to a nearby town but no transfers in new town for DD so she still attends old school. Because I have had to rely on buses, we have been late again quite a few times, or other people that I have relied on to drive her in for me have been late traffic etc or there's been other logistical problems, so presumably the record isn't improving.

Today the head teacher called my Mum in for a word (I'm 44...why they need to call my Mummy I don't know), and the gist was as follows:

My children are being neglected because I have insomnia (I don't, I just needed to put some excuse down in the late book. Quite tame compared to other regularly late people's excuses), so they want to involve social services.

I have been seen in the village shop with my children buying chocolate bars. And that's it. I don't know what they mean by this? :/

My daughter has turned up without a cardigan on at least two occasions in 'extreme weather'. This constitutes neglect. But they are quick to complain if she's wearing a different colour cardigan to school because her two logo tops are in the wash.

She often has a chocolate drink in her lunchbox.

This is a very cliquey village, hence glad to have left it behind, but although the late record is admittedly quite dire, is it generally worthy of involving social services for neglect?

The head teacher and I "don't have a dialogue" she told my Mum, hence why she called her in to talk to instead.

I've only spoken to the head once, when I had to inform them about the children's father's DV past so that they do not let him take DD out of school without my permission.

I bristle under authority having come into my Catholic rebellion quite late in life, but I'm generally non-combative.

So I'm wondering what you think of my request, in that I want toask the head to write down all the concerns she has so I have it in writing, and then invite her to my home in order that she can ascertain for herself it is a proper, clean, comfortable and sustaining environment for the children.

I feel a bit Hmmmmm that she has gone 'running to my Mummy' instead of talking to me, the parent, especially considering this late book has been full of the same old, same old pupils including my sister's son, for the last couple of years, but I feel a bit singled out perhaps wrongly, I don't know, because of the whole single mother on benefits stereotype, DV background, and now they want social services to investigate the children for neglect.

The children's father also wants to play this card against me, so I'm just resigned to SS being involved in their lives anyway it's out of my control.

My DD is otherwise happy, bright, doing fine at school and paints happy pictures all the time.

Can an infant school really go down this route when there isn't actually any clear signs of any kind of neglect going on? It seems unfair to tar my DD with this brush and I'm also concerned how this is going to affect her In Year transfer to a school in our new town.

I think this is just a rant, it all seems to be out of my control. The head has a reputation for being an axe-grinder and their Ofsted isn't great for a village school. The conspiracy theorist in me is saying its all about the grades.

Hs anyone been investigated by SS before for neglect? What should I expect? Will it go against me in the forthcoming Vafcass report which their father wants to initiate too as part of his contact/custody case?

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Aspiemum2 · 09/01/2013 23:32

You welcome all views, you just choose to ignore opposing ones?

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:33

Prima

You are enraged? Remember how easy it is to misinterpret the anonymity of online posting though. Where you feel such a passionate emotional response, others will be just Meh.

You haven't read the whole thread at all, otherwise you wouldn't be asking the questions you do - they've already been answered.

I'd be a little bored at the prospect of having to read back a couple of hundred posts though, so I don't blame you.

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Autumnalis · 09/01/2013 23:33

Your poor DD. Please seek help for yourself so your DD can have an involved parent. This can't go on, she deserves better.

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:34

Aspire

Noo. I'm just not interested in a gunfight. I'm only here to read other peoples views, not debate them Smile

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pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:35

Tuna

Laid up in bed pretty poorly, yes. I don't have a landline and am not relying on mobile coverage and a sore throat to speak to the head. I want to write a letter, it's more official.

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TunaPastaBake · 09/01/2013 23:35

There are alot of views on here that are telling you to engage with the school and stop being an arse - so listen to them FFS.

This is starting to be rather pathetic .

Floggingmolly · 09/01/2013 23:36

You say lateness will continue to be an issue because you can't afford to take the bus. So how is she getting there? Confused
Presumably on foot, and there is no actual reason why you can't simply leave in good time?
Your disregard for "silly rules", such as marching into the Nativity play despite being told not to bring your other child makes you sound like an entitled idiot with no understanding of the part you actually play in your child's life.
Lateness does not run in families, it's a personal failing, not a character trait.

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:36

RavenAK

No, the petrol costs are way way cheaper than a monthly is pass.mbearing in mind children do not qualify for bus passes.

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TunaPastaBake · 09/01/2013 23:36

oh it just gets better ... Hmm

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:37

Flogging

A personal failing is a character trait.

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fuzzpig · 09/01/2013 23:37

If you stopped swimming/rainbows for a bit you could afford bus fare and not need to rely on busy/ill relatives.

gingerchick · 09/01/2013 23:37

^ this
Really and truly you need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get a fucking grip
Many of the excuses you are using ( mental health issues, dv history, finances) are things that affect my life but I would never let them affect the life of my children, getting your child to school on time is something you just have to do, last night I was still awake at 5,30 and I was exhausted but I got up at 6,45 took my daughters to school and pre school and haven't sat down all day, you really do need to grow up. The head is obviously worried for your dd I don't see how complaining about her will help your dd or yourself its just part of your hard done by attitude and nothing is going to change until you address that.

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:38

Tuna

The school is, is being engaged with ... When I'm out of bed and less unwell. You're a domineering character aren't you? Wink

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JambalayaCodfishPie · 09/01/2013 23:39

OP, why are you here?

Genuine question. You disagree with everything anybody says. You obviously know best.

So why bother?

ravenAK · 09/01/2013 23:39

You see your response to primafacie - that's just deliberate baiting pylonic, & I'm sure you know it.

& tbh, it's not surprising that your daughter's teachers have concluded that there's no prospect of getting any sense out of you - you'd rather just indulge yourself with some verbal sparring & ignore their very real concerns that your daughter is not being parented properly - so they'll try talking to your mother, since she's the adult they usually encounter...

& when that fails to stir you to action, beyond a spot of keyboard warrioring with strangers online, they'll contact SS.

Which, I'm increasingly inclined to think, would be by far the best next step for your children's welfare.

I'm surprised you aren't more worried about the ammunition you're handing to your violent ex, though.

lovelychops · 09/01/2013 23:39

Any chance your letter to the head could take the form of an email? That way you're being proactive (rather than MNing) ?

TunaPastaBake · 09/01/2013 23:40

Domineering ? well starting to get pissed off with your attitude about your DD and pathetic excuses like most other people reading this thread.

ThatVikRinA22 · 09/01/2013 23:40

pylonic forgive me for bringing this up but are you the lady who left her childs nits in hair for 4 months? the one where the hairdresser wouldnt cut the hair??

apologies if its not you but, if it is you, i can kind of see where the school are coming from, you are building a pretty grim picture really.

maybe you need to actually look at what message you are sending people? its clearly not a great one if now the school want to involve social services.

doublecakeplease · 09/01/2013 23:41

Prima is right. You continue to focus on your complaint about the school, ignore advice about actually helping your child and seem to be foisting lots of parental responsibility on your family members. Could they chip in for your bus fares rather than spending on petrol so that you can reclaim some responsibility??

If you're genuinely too ill to get to school to discuss helping your child then ring or email.

You said that you are available at all times - which is more than lots of us with other commitments can say so you surely have time to ring or email.

TunaPastaBake · 09/01/2013 23:41

Vicar - I think she is - it was mentioned last night . BUt it wasn't her fault ..

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:41

Ginger et al

It is intriguing that this is being interpreted as a 'poor me' diatribe. Despite my numerous explanations that I don't feel in any way victimised by the school here. I have no issue with the school taking this action, the thread asked if it was a normal occurrence.

This isn't AIBU. I welcome all your views. I'm not looking for agreement. I'd prefer you not to agree with anything I say, it makes for more interesting reading.

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DollyTwat · 09/01/2013 23:43

Op people here are trying to help you. At some point you need to listen to someone.
When SS do get involved you will need the support MN offers

lovelychops · 09/01/2013 23:44

Put aside your 'interesting reading' and write an email to the school

pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:44

Tuna

Then you need to leave the thread m'dear, if you are feeling too emotional.

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pylonic · 09/01/2013 23:45

Jamba

I'm here to read different views on the opening subject, that's all.
I'm not interested in but fighting or responding to every single reply. I am genuinely not concerned if there are different opinions, I want to hear them all Smile

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