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Parents of children who have had their phonics screening

208 replies

bronze · 07/07/2012 10:57

Have you all heard how they did?

I haven't and I'm worried as I'm pretty sure dd is going to fail. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to know by now or not or if I'll be told at all

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Salskey · 10/07/2012 23:07

Reading level!

mrz · 11/07/2012 06:59

1C has nothing to do with the phonic screening score they are measures of totally different things.

TroublesomeEx · 11/07/2012 09:59

37/40

igivein · 11/07/2012 10:33

Before the test we got a letter home explaining about the test, and asking us not to mention it to our children, as the teacher wanted to administer it in as low key a way as possible so the children didn't get wound up about it (the plan was that they wouldn't know they were being tested).
After the test we got a note in the book bag telling us what the pass mark was, what our child had scored and whether or not any intervention was required.
DS got 39 and I was thrilled (sad mother needs to get a life emoticon!) because reading has only started to 'click' for him in the last few months.

Salskey · 11/07/2012 16:08

Mrz if my Ds is on reading book stage 4 and got 1c how would another dc get 1b and be on stage 3? I really am confused and will ask at parents evening but if you could enlighten me I'd be most grateful x

mrz · 11/07/2012 16:36

The phonics check has nothing directly to do with NC levels Salskey.
Which reading scheme does the school use?

Salskey · 11/07/2012 23:29

Ort and rigby star, he's gone through every book in stage 3 of rs and is now on stage 4, book 3 of Ort. He hasn't had any comprehension homework at all this year, although I do this at home with him. I feel the class he's in is so behind many of them are still stage 3.

Salskey · 11/07/2012 23:31

What questions can I ask mrz? Parents evening is tomorrow!

Willsmum79 · 12/07/2012 09:39

I found out that my class (went on Maternity end of Autumn) didn't do too well. Only 17 out of 29 passed. However of those 29, 8 have SEN, two of which missed the whole of reception and one of those only started half way through Y1. They were assessed by the HT and DHT (neither have worked with the children before so naturally apprehensive) and some of those children I know would not bother to sound out if they knew the word was false!

It's the first year doing it and teething problems always arise when new assessments are carried out. Take it with a pinch of salt. We do as out KS1 SATS are in 90s and KS2 SATs are in 80s!

Willsmum79 · 12/07/2012 09:39

out = OUR! Doh!

simpson · 12/07/2012 18:32

M DS is in yr2 so did not do the test but as he is an end of August child I have a lot of friends whose kids are the year below (that he went to nursery/play group with etc who a the oldest in their year iyswim).

I am a tad concerned because according to them out of 60 kids in yr1 hardly anyone passed and the school are even telling parents that the test is a load of rubbish ( HT told me this herself at a phonics workshop).

I am concerned that if they have so many kids failing the test they are not teaching kids to read properly iyswim. Currently they use jolly phonics but then from yr1 they use ORT which does not seem at all phonetic so encourages children to read the whole word or guess by looking at the picture.

This concerns me as DD is starting full time school in sept.

mrz · 12/07/2012 18:38

Willsmum the test is hardly taxing ... can you sound out these words ... some are real and some are silly Hmm
Your SATs might be in the 90s or even the magical 100% if you got it right early.

bronze · 13/07/2012 15:32

Well reports have arrived and no results

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littlemiss06 · 13/07/2012 16:22

My little girl did fail with 14/40

WarmAndFuzzy · 13/07/2012 18:42

My DS2 just passed with 33/40 (one of the 49% in our school who did) which I am so proud of him for - he's on the autism spectrum and could barely write his name a year ago, so huge leaps forwards!

UniS · 13/07/2012 18:45

DS tells me that the "alien" words had a picture of an Alien space ship by them " so that free readers don' t get worried". He has since then been inventing his own alien language at ever opportunity and trying to tell me that gooooobblequark means yes.

littleducks · 13/07/2012 18:59

DD's results were in her report. She passed with 39/40 and we were told this meant no further action was required.

I am very interested to see how many children passed in the school, is this info going to be published?

mrz · 13/07/2012 19:02

No it isn't

nellyjelly · 13/07/2012 19:07

Well got ours today.

DD got 25 and failed. She is just 6 and on ORT stage 7. Report describes her as a fluent reader.

Should I be worried?

littleducks · 13/07/2012 19:25

OK thanks MRZ

mrz · 13/07/2012 19:28

How will the results from the phonics screening check be used?

Schools? results will not be published, although schools will have to tell parents their child?s results. Schools will be given the flexibility to inform parents in the way they think most suitable. Data will be available on RAISEOnline, for use by schools, local authorities and Ofsted as part of their inspections process.
www.education.gov.uk/schools/teachingandlearning/pedagogy/phonics/a00198207/faqs-year-1-phonics-screening-check#faq18

ValentineBombshell · 13/07/2012 19:33

Dc2 got 35/40 and 58% of the class passed. She is not a natural reader or speller like dc1, and she's sometimes hard of hearing, so I am pleased to get one indication of how she's doing.

Is this to identify who needs more support with phonics? Or to test out the success of phonics? Are schools going to unofficially try them out on other years to assess their phonic comprehension too?

mrz · 13/07/2012 19:45

It does a number of things include identifying those children who need extra support (they will most likely have been identified already) and any particular gaps in a child's knowledge. So although your child passed the teacher should be looking at errors to see if there is any common spelling she didn't know.

mrz · 13/07/2012 19:47

Many schools will already be using similar internal checks as part of their assessment process. Really the only thing that's new is the fact that it's a compulsory check.

ValentineBombshell · 13/07/2012 19:50

Thank you, Mrz, you are a font of information :)