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How much difference would getting a 5 in maths sats make once dd gets to secondary?

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Bustle · 24/02/2012 20:47

Dd has been offered extra maths lessons at school to help her achieve a 5 in her sats instead of the predicted 4b.

Obviously I appreciate the benefit for the school - but why difference will getting a 5 compared to a 4b make when she goes up to secondary? She doesn't find maths easy, will this make next year easier or will she be repeating work - or I suppose even worse put in a high group that she can't keep up with?

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CointreauVersial · 26/02/2012 18:46

All secondary schools decide on streaming in different ways.

DS's take the SATs results into account, and then augment that with internal assessments in the first term.

DS also had the top-up coaching to nudge him up to Level 5 in Yr 6, but he ended up a borderline 4. But he ended up in the third of four sets for Maths, because half the intake were level 5!

Having said that, the free coaching was fantastic; I certainly wouldn't turn it down in a hurry.

ChewingGum · 26/02/2012 19:03

The only way you will ever find the truth out the SATs and then the ensuing GCSE is to speak to those who have been right through and find out what the year 6 result was, what the then fischer trust bollox prediction is for GCSE and then the final GCSE result.

Then and only then, will you be able to see who much of a variation there can be .

Ragged, when we have had our results it gives a percentage of the class who got level 3 4 5 etc in year 6. simple maths will then work out exactly how many of those children actually reached each level.

Iamnotminterested · 26/02/2012 19:44

Bustle Apologies if someone has already mentioned this, but from a 4b to a 5c seems like a heck of a lot to achieve before May. I can understand the booster classes if she was a high 4a but do you, and the school, and your DD, really think this is achievable in such little time? I don't think my own DD in year 6 could deal with the pressure TBH.

bruffin · 26/02/2012 21:39

Chewing gum
I am almost there with Ds.
He got
Ks1 level 3
Ks2 mid level 5
Ks3 forecast level 7.45 actually got level 8.5
Ks4 forecast A* and seems to be on target.

ChewingGum · 26/02/2012 22:27

ooh best of luck for the summer bruffin boy!

for english dd got level 5 year 6 and did get the coveted A stars for lit and lang

the science she got level 5 and ended up with a B at GCSE

Bunbaker · 26/02/2012 23:49

"How do you know so much, are the results for the entire year supplied with your own child's results or did you look them up somewhere?"

We got a letter from the school. Primary schools are under such pressure to achieve high SATS targets that the year 6s spend January to May doing nothing but practice SATS tests. DD's old primary school is a very high achieving one and a high percentage of children got level 5s in English and maths in 2011. They all got level 4 or above and are the best primary school in our LA (not just SATS results, but outstanding ofsted, award winning teachers and a brilliant school all round)

crazymum53 · 27/02/2012 08:16

Hello my dd is in year 7 and they were put into setsfor Maths after the October half term. They did not just use SATs results to decide the Sets but also CATs and NFER tests as well. Sets for other subjects start in Y8.
"I would envisage 4a upwards being the top set unless you are in a super clever year group."
dds school must be full of children who are brilliant then as set 1 children are level 5a+ in year 7.

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