school says my ds does not need a statement?

[crazygal]

hello there everyone...
i did put this post else where,but got no response,
i hope someone can help me here.
my ds is 7,and just 3 weeks ago got diagnosed with mild ADHD,
over the last 2 and a half years of school we have being called in several times over his behaviour,
with them saying hes troublesome,challenging,disruptive etc.....
we had a parent evening,were the teacher was very positive,saying hes doing very well,although she can see hes gone from above average to average/just below average,she said he is disruptive and struggles threw each part of the day,(morning,lunch,afternoon!)
im guessing hes still trying to be class clown...
she told us that they have to get a one 2 one in for him when hes abit more hyper,and that is normaly around 2-4 times in a week,for an hr to a whole afternoon.
i asked the teacher if he could do with having his own 1-1 ta?
teacher said
1:dont go there.
2:if theres 1-1 available in the school then we can use them.
3:hes not that bad.

so what do you guys think?
if he does need 1-1, then how do i go about it?
what if the school says no?
ds is changing his school next year,he goes into middle school,
thank you xxx

my son responded very well to diet under the care of Dr Shattock aut.sagepub.com/content/3/1/45.abstract

i am trying to educate my self on diet at the moment,something i would like to say i tried 1st,along with the brain gym etc,im hoping that will be fine for him,MRZ-can i ask if your son had adhd too?

wow leoniedelt,well done to you,a very well done!!
thats a great story to hear,
your one determined woman,
so thats really boosted me actually,
thank you,x

mrz just looking threw your link now x

My son also found Brain Gym exercises helped to focus him (yes I know there is no scientific evidence for it)
My son was put on a full exclusion diet under hospital supervision (which I think is necessary) and we discovered milk, gluten and citrus were main triggers

How long was your son on food exclusions for, mrz, to enable you to be sure of the problem? I asked (on another website) about it once, and was told that basically I'd have to exclude all problem foods for a month, then try just one thing for a day, then exclude that same food plus still everything else still for another month, to be sure I tested properly.

I just couldn't physically do it, too much work, too difficult to be that purist without knowing for sure that something was a major problem and must be avoided. I'd have to home-ed for a start, for at least a year, really, and cut all social life ties for DC (and maybe me too); and completely change the family diet in mean time, too. And rarely eat out, etc.

I did think that was ridiculous, so what did you do?

He had a month of eating nothing but plain rice, chicken and broccoli with water to drink. Then each week a new food was introduced and we kept a diary. If there was no reaction another food added the next week if there was a reaction we went back to rice chicken and broccoli

How did he take that diet for a whole month? Was he quite resistant?

Actually he coped better than me ... I was sick of rice by the third day!

corr,that sounds hard and stressful!
whats his diet like now?
was he able to go back onto "normal" foods?

We know which foods to avoid but sometimes he craves them and will eat a family sized pack of cereal or a block of cheese (or both) during the night.

Often when people talk about diet they think e numbers but with my son it is many of the "healthy" foods ... milk, cereal bread oranges

yes very true!!!
ive being looking bits up,and so far its said milk/dairy,gluten and anything red,juice,peppers! tomatoes,apples etc.and to go oragnic,as fruit and veg has pesticides on them,
we are cutting things down slowly,he doesnt drink juices,or fizz,but he likes his milk,and we liked him on it to,as hes under weight,but hey,hes ok,
weve got him down to a glass of milk in a week :)
but hes still so angry and aggressive,
i suppose it takes time.

The hospital dietician recommended 7Up as the best drink (to provide a change from water) and pure apple juice. We did goat's milk and soya when he was younger but avoid it as much as possible

leonie, your ds has hfa, not mild adhd.

and i'm a regular on the sn board, with one child statemented, and another with longstanding but not statementable issues (add/as/asd/odd ish). you wouldn't get a different answer from me about this particular issue, wherever you posted it (if i'm supposed to tbe the bogeyman trying to put the op off fighting for her rights. ) some battles aren't worth the bother. and in this case the ds is being well supported and does not have a condition that is likely to ever get a statement of sen.

there are lots of things you can try for mildish add/hd, but generally speaking, however much effort you put into it, no lea is going to give a ds with mild adhd a statement. not unless the child is being failed so badly by the system that he descends into chair throwing, or falls so far behind that he triggers the learning disability warning lights.

so, diet, yes (omegas, zinc, magensium esp, but some children have sensitivites to gluten - we are trialling gaps diet on and off with ds), meds, yes, but personal choice, behaviour plans, whatever, but i have yet to see a child a child with mild adhd get a statement, and that's what this thread was about.

crazygal, there are several threads on diet etc (including the gaps thread) that you might want to take a look at, and loads of different things you can try. but trying to get a statement is, imvho, not worth the effort. school are right.

lol at 7up, btw. i thought the slt was clearly crackers when she suggested quavers for dd2. sometimes the answer is really not what you expect.

MADWOMAN-
thatn you for you honest reply,
its what i need as i dont dont know if thats what he needs!
school for the 1st time this year are supporting him,last year and the year before he spent most of his days outside the class on his own sitting with whoever was avalible! i complained about it and at one vist to the pead i broke down telling her how he was being treated,she wrote to the school and told them that i wasnt happy with there teaching ways,they called me in and tried to calm the whole thing down,but i couldnt even begin to beleive them!
(wks before that,teacher put ds in the middle of the carpet and asked every1 else in the class if they thought he was bad! they all said yes....he then asked them to stand up if they think he should be sent out for the afternoon....they all stood up apart from 1)
this upsets me everytime i even think about it,
the teacher told me he done it the next day and i flipped!
his explaination was that ds needs to know its not just me he irritates,its everyone!!
ds has been suffering panic attacks since around that time,
and im desperate for him to build frienships....
so this yr the school have been better yes,
as for chair throwing,hes very tempermental,when he "looses" it hes taken out of the class as hes apparently intimidating,
hes hitting people in the face if things dont go his way or kicking them.

we went into the town the other eve and because i didnt answer his question straight away he went to a table and chair that was out side a resturant and tried to flip the table and he knocked over the chairs! great when everyone is looking at you!!

teacher asked me on friday if im talking about middle school to him?as hes moving next year,i said i was,and hes excited etc,
she said i say that because its gonna be hard for him,and different.x

sorry OP but the picture you are painting is not that of a child with mild ADHD

really??
what are you seeing?

as for chair throwing,hes very tempermental,when he "looses" it hes taken out of the class as hes apparently intimidating, hes hitting people in the face if things dont go his way or kicking them.

we went into the town the other eve and because i didnt answer his question straight away he went to a table and chair that was out side a resturant and tried to flip the table and he knocked over the chairs!

sorry but this isn't mild behaviour

i know :(
what am i to do? the pead said because hes not like it all the time,its mild adhd,that if it was constant it would be modrate to severe?
should i get him reassessed?
im taking videos just incase.
the pead said the teachers connors report came out alot worse than ours,
and when our son was in the office he was high!
she said she was looking at full adhd then,but because its not all the time its mild :/
hes not as hyper as he used to be a year ago,but hes getting more aggressive,unless he gets his own way,then he has conseqenses then boom!!! more aggression!
sorry about my spelling!

Has he been seen by CAMHS? Often ADHD has other behaviours (co-morbidities) and it sounds as if this may be the case ... obviously my comments are based on limited information as I don't know him but I would be looking for further involvement from the paed.