Parents becoming teachers? Is it me or has Gove totally lost it?

[sogrownup]

How do you feel about going into school to cover for a teacher who is on strike? Is there anyone out there who believes that this is a sound idea.... I think it's madness!!

And the likes of Terry Pratchet have to be CRB checked before they can do book readings in schools?

Didn't he refuse?

Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

I too love the long holidays and think its the number one perk (I'm a fanatical traveller so the 6 weeks are my sanity), but what bugs most teachers is that people claim that teaching is a doss because of it. For me it isn't, the holidays just cancels out all the hard work and stress I have to endure during the term.

working9while 5 "However, it irritates me no end when teachers act as though the holidays are not a perk"

READ THE THREAD!!! For God's sake!

clam 19:46: "Whilst, to those of us with children, that is an undeniable bonus....."

And you keep ignoring the people who have pointed out to you that teachers are not able to strike over the issues you mention, only pay and conditions.

I don't think anyone on here has claimed the holidays aren't a perk (not sure about huge )especially for parents but having worked in the private sector I can say that my role then was far less demanding mentally and physically but I suppose it depends how much you are willing to put into a role.

working9while5 in that case nurses are paid more than teachers

Yes, teachers get 16 weeks holiday.
Yes, it's pretty hard work although not, clearly, like working in a salt mine or even as a hospital consultant (although hospital consultants do get paid a TINY bit more...)
BUT I wonder what the HELL that has to do with whether teachers should have their pension rights taken away? or money taken out of a pension fund that has been paid into and is self-funding?
Where's the logic?

'There isn't enough money to sustain pensions as they are currently configured.'
No, that's simply untrue. Show me the evidence for that statement.

I think the reason some teachers overplay the "woe is me" stuff is to attempt to counteract the sort of ill-informed comments we still see on here; namely, that we all piss about playing in the sandpit all day and go home at 3:30.

Since when did I get 16 weeks holiday? [shocked]

Now does that mean I'm overpaid or that you are underpaid working9while5?

Which doesn't equate to 16 weeks when I'm not working working9while5

working9while5

The holidays are a fantastic perk but it's not fair to suggest that we are saying "no one else has any hard work or stress to endure."

Has anyone said that?!! No. Stop putting words into people's mouths to make your point.

The holidays are a good perk, however I also have absolutely no doubt that the holidays are vital for refreshing teachers so that they are able to deliver energetic and interesting lessons. I've worked in countries where teachers work much longer hours with no holidays and believe me, the children's learning suffers for it.

In theUS teachers have to get holiday jobs.

Read what I've just said, it's the implication that the job is super easy because of it. As the statistics that have been provided on here show, teaching is the profession most likely to suffer with stress, that doesn't mean that others aren't, it just means that teaching is proved to be particularly stressful. My DP is in a stressful, private sector job so I see it everyday. But he still thinks teaching is more stressful as he sees the realities from both myself and his brother. Funnily enough he has no desire to switch careers. Oh and could you care to respond to my other posts to you please, or does it not suit your bandwagon?

working9while5

Are you a troll?

"oh I have no holidays"

Nobody said that. We said we are only contracted for term time hours and therefore do not get paid for the holidays. Which is true, no matter how little you seem to be able to grasp the concept.

I hope when somebody starts cutting your pay and eroding all your reasons for doing a job you love, you don't expect any of us to have any sympathy for you.

Absoloutely

working9while5

"It's not a massive leap to suggest that implies that it is deserved and that therefore others who don't have this perk do not deserve."

Yes it is. They're two completely separate issues.

Can you see past that massive chip on your shoulder?

As I said, every respect for teachers. I just don't agree with some of the points being made on this thread. Is that a bandwagon?