Parents becoming teachers? Is it me or has Gove totally lost it?

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How do you feel about going into school to cover for a teacher who is on strike? Is there anyone out there who believes that this is a sound idea.... I think it's madness!!

You do not need higher-qualified TAs. You need to go back to the policy of only trained teachers being responsible for classes.

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does anyone know if non-union members are welcome to join the marches in support?

am thinking of taking ds out of school (if the bugger pulls his socks up and does his English hw- but that's another story ) and joining London one

anyone else?

We are paid for 39 weeks, plus "normal" holiday entitlement, but it is spread out across 12 months for easier budgeting.

Pointy it varies

For example, I wanted to work as a 1-1 TA / LSA with ASD kids; having an MA in Autism (soon anyway- I hope) would i think have been a big bonus.

Hpowever whilst I agree TA / LSA workers have important roles, I agree that etachers should be in charge in a class at all times. The best classes in our schools have excellent TA/ Teacher partnerships in place.

Because our contract is for 1265 hours spread over 195 days. Which if you have 6 or more years experience works out at just under £25 an hour or 83p per pupil per hour (which is bargin childcare I would of thought).

We get paid "during" the holidays but not "for" the actual holidays. There are no holidays specified in the The School Teachers Pay and Conditions document.

working9while5 I happen to think that teachers pay is ok as we are compensated with longer holidays. I think nurses are criminally underpaid, but this isn't about pay so please don't pick fights. We should all be on the same side, being fairly rewarded for the vital role we play in society, not pulling each other apart.

working9while5 I can only assume you are intending to be unpleasant on this thread.

It is not a crock, it is fact. And one of the accusations bandied about on this thread and others is that teachers have a cushy number with regard to all those "paid" holidays. Whilst, to those of us with children, that is an udeniable bonus (although it means of course that the holidays are totally fixed and we are not able to take leave at any other time of the year for anything ), so it is worth pointing out that it is not 13 weeks' paid leave. To people like you who are determined to badmouth us.

working9while5 - do you think you are paid a fair wage and get a fair pension for what you do? And how have you calculated this?

Mum2Luke - I think we KNOW we are very lucky to have unions to fight for us. Which is one of the reasons I shall join the strike. I feel uneasy about it but I know I am lucky to have someone to fight my corner and should support them in doing so.

working9while5 so should I lie and say we get paid for the holidays because you find the truth silly?

Err I think it was you who brought up the holidays issue, we simply answered your query with the facts. As someone has already pointed out we are only allowed to strike over pay and conditions, I very much expect that the factors you have listed have influenced the decision to strike (I know it has for me).

I am not sure if this true or not but when the Chinese Education Secretary equivalent visited the UK last year, his officials showed him some of the threads on MN and other education/teacher forums, and all had a jolly good laugh.

These developing countries must think we are bonkers - and judging from all the comments regarding Michael Gove e.g. 'he is a twat' etc and much worse, the eloquence of the teacher profession on MN is very poor and shows you what an uphill struggle we have a profession that is longer fit for purpose.

I love how 'getting paid' translates into 'taking money from the public coffers'. No, it's being paid for doing a job according to the set contractual conditions.

OK so I'm going to hopefully make a quick calculation here. Nurses (assuming they get the equivalent of 5 weeks leave a year, I don't actually know so please correct me) work 7 extra weeks a year. Taking a teachers average salary after 6 years, that works out at £626 a week for 52 weeks including holidays. If do 626 x 7 to compensate a nurse for the extra time worked that works out at £4382 a year (which is what you feel they are underpaid by). A pay rise which I think most teachers would be happy for a nurse to recieve, knowing the difficulty of their role and how valuable they are for society.

I am not sure if this true or not but when the Chinese Education Secretary equivalent visited the UK last year, his officials showed him some of the threads on MN and other education/teacher forums, and all had a jolly good laugh.

No, it's not true, since you made it up.

1/10 for composition and effect.

Oh, and - twat.

Speech therapists, Physiotherapists and Occupational therapists are paid more than teachers. Nursing has fairly recently become a graduate profession and pay hasn't kept pace with qualifications. Is that fair? Not in my opinion but then I'm not calling your situation a "crock"

Is ReadingMan real?

I'm not sure what a troll is, but I do keep wondering if they are related. Not sure why, just a feeling.