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yr 1 having to wait to go to the loo

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luciemule · 08/09/2010 12:14

DS was chatting to me last night and seemed worried about the toilet system in his new yr 1 class.

He said they have a toilet chart where there's a side for girls and one for boys and if you're going to the loo (after asking), you have to put your label on the top, which means nobody can go if you're there (there are 7 toilets for boys and 7 for girls). I said surely this wasn't right and I would ask the teacher today.

So I asked her this morning what the set up was and she said that's correct and that they were allowed to go at all times after asking but not at carpet time (15mins long) every so often throughout the day.

I laughed and said that was ridiculous and how could they expect a 5 yr old child who was still in pull ups at night to sit and wait until either the person on the top of the chart had come back or not at all if on the carpet. There was a message on the whiteboard telling parents that they were teaching the children not to go to the loo at carpet time and to make sure they went before class (like a 5 yr old will remember to do that)

So I said that I didn't agree and that it was counter-productive to my toilet training; saying that we are always telling DS to go when he needs and not to sit there holding it. She said that was the rules. She said if she could they were desperate they could go but not at carpet time (she isn't a mum).

Don't really know what to do now - I know that DS is worried about it and when I said he should just say he really needs to go when he does and he replied "but it's the rule".

I agree that in yr 1, they need more rules and discipline but to be told to sit and wait for 10/15 mins whilst they have carpet time is bonk.
On the ERIC site it says that making a child go to the loo 'just to try' when they don't really need to can cause their bladder not to learn when it's really full and lead to not drinking enough in order not to need to go or incontinence.

Am so pee-ed off with school - they have the most bonk rules and if the parents don't agree with them -tough!

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rabbitstew · 09/09/2010 14:03

luciemule, do you really think that seven 5-year old boys (or indeed two) in a toilet together will just go to the loo and come back to the classroom???!!! According to my ds1, whose school is foolish enough to let up to two children go to the toilet at the same time, there is an awful lot that two children can get up to together in there that doesn't actually involve peeing into the toilet!!!!! It generally involves making the place unsanitary for anyone else, though. Much better to remove the distraction of another playmate, which makes temporary freedom from supervision somewhat less exhilirating.

choufleur · 09/09/2010 14:24

I think you need to broaden his horizons if you only ever walk to school, go to the woods or the play park next to your house.

Some places just don't have toilets that are close by.

luciemule · 09/09/2010 15:01

okay - leaving now.
Have got over toilet problem.

Our children have very broad horizons thank you choufleur-as the children of a daddy in the forces, their horizons are far more broad than the average child.

Off now to deal with a bullying issue - can't mention it in case I get accused of being over protective Wink

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rabbitstew · 09/09/2010 16:58

Glad to help with the toilet problem... Wink

Are you sure you aren't being over protective about the bullying?

(No, seriously, I was only joking).

lizardpoisonsspock · 09/09/2010 18:53

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sparklycheerymummy · 10/09/2010 22:42

My dd has a lazy bladder and doesnt get the 'i need to go' feeling till she is desperate!.....if she had to wait she would quite simply wet herself!

elphabaisgreen · 10/09/2010 22:51

I assume thought that you have informed the school of her medical condition.

I work with a couple of children who have medical issues, they are allowed to go without question. The rest...no.

sparklycheerymummy · 11/09/2010 22:37

Going to the toilet when you need it is a basic human right..... an adult wouldnt be told....wait till lunchtime would they???? i am a teacher btw.....I encourage all chn to go at the right time but how awful to need a wee and be told NO!!! A teacher I know did that to a child in assembly once and they wet themselves in front of the whole school..... mortifying and a memory that will stay with them!

RollaCoasta · 11/09/2010 22:57

Have now been back at school a week, and have been pretty lenient about toiletting - reminding the children about going at break times (but letting them go if they are desperate) just to reinforce the habit.

Have already identified two children who have an involuntary bladder response to 'get your pencils out'.......Hmm Grin I think it's known as 'taking the piss'...

elphabaisgreen · 11/09/2010 23:07

Atually sperklycheerymummy, in some jobs then yes an adult would have to wait until a scheduled break.

Surely you as a teacher can't just nip off and leave the children unsupervised, I know I can't.

And no-one is saying wait until lunchtime anyway, just wait 10-15 mins until carpet time is over or until the person already at the loos gets back.

veritythebrave · 12/09/2010 18:48

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Nospringflower · 13/09/2010 10:18

I was told that men are useless at holding in a pee because they can just do it at the side of the road etc so never get used to holding it in for long periods of time like women. I can believe it seeing my sons who spend their time stopping for a pee at every opportunity.

I think in school you have to learn the rules but I have told my children that if they really are going to pee themselves they should tell the teacher that and assert themselves. As long as they arent children who are always saying they need the loo I would have thought the teacher would believe them in certian circumstances.

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