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Can year 2 pupil go into year 3 for ability?

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icklepicklesmum · 14/07/2010 09:41

My daughter is currently in a year 1/2 class and has achieved the grade she needs to achieve by the end of year 2 already.

Next year she is going into an all year 2 class as our school does not have a year 2/3 split class.

This means she is going into a class where the remainder of the children are basically anything up to a year behind her.

Is is possible for a year 2 pupil to go into a year 3 class based on ability?

This year the teacher has worked with us to ensure she doesnt get bored which is what happens when the work gets too easy. Each time she has said she is bored or the work is too hard she has made it harder. She has ended up getting better grades than most of the year 2 pupils in the class.

If any teachers can help with this or if any of you have experienced this I would appreciated your help.

I plan on seeing the class teacher to discuss our concerns so it would be good to hear some of your experiences beforehand.

Thanks very much

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icklepicklesmum · 14/07/2010 21:04

I am going to go now as I never expected an internet forum that I thought would be full of caring mums would be so full of people who think I am a bad mother for wanting a good education for my child. This is something that is very important to me and my family and if you ask my little girl she will tell you she loves to learn.

A child only gets one shot at an education!

For your information my daughter is a miracle who was born to two parents with lifethreatening medical conditions who thought they would never have a child. She was born prematurely weighing 3lbs with a heart condition and has been through heart surgery. She is our miracle and I will do whatever I have to to ensure that she gets the education she needs and deserves. If that upsets a few people along the way then so be it.

Thank you to those of you that have come up with some positive suggestions, its much appreciated.

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icklepicklesmum · 14/07/2010 21:05

Oh please Lougle!! Get real!

Bye

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PosyPetrovaPauline · 14/07/2010 21:08

different I know but at secondary school my dd's year have ALL skipped a year.

they were all bright and school thought it wise

I dont. I do believe in consolidation as well as moving forward. Teach her piano or a bit of french if you are worried. Even g and t does not do much and I dont always believe that the brightest kids end up on g and t anyway

Einstein, Aristotle and Picasso would have undoubtedly been gazing out of the window looking at cloud formations and pondering the universe at this age.

We need more of them imo and less g and t

Imarriedafrog · 14/07/2010 21:08

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Lougle · 14/07/2010 21:10

Congratulations on her birth. I am sure that your daughter brings you great joy and you want the best for her. I think that sometimes, though, you have to take a step back and make sure that you are acting in your child's best interests rather than your own. I know that having been very academic myself, I could easily have pushed for my DD to attend a mainstream school. She would have needed 1:1 support for every minute she was there, because she has no sense of danger and is very impulsive. If I had pushed for mainstream, I would have been doing it so that I could experience the 'normal mum' thing. The pick ups, the drop offs, etc. Instead she will go to a school 10 miles away and be picked up and dropped off by school escorts. But, instead of being the 'SN one' or the child that causes problems for the staff, she will thrive.

You need to be careful that you don't pressure your daughter, because seriously, given the level you say she is achieving, she really isn't unusual for a mainstream setting.

lindsell · 14/07/2010 21:10

I haven't read the whole thread but you should definitely see what the school can do and pester them until something is done (whether that is moving up or extra work etc). I was in a v similar situation at primary school and it wasn't until secondary school that my mum finally succeeded in getting me moved up a year and even then I wasn't being stretched.

The teachers in primary school just used to laugh at me for wanting to work/read and although I could read/write/add up etc before I went to school they said I had to start again at the beginning and wasn't allowed to read any books that weren't the ones the class was doing iykwim. My mother had a huge argument with the head about that and eventually I was allowed to read the books more at my level. The teachers would ignore me because it was easier for them to do that. I did have one or two decent teachers who made an effort to help/give me extra work the others would just laugh and tell me I was lying - I couldn't possibly have finished/be able to do that etc etc.

So I would say if your dd is feeling the same as I did then it is very important that she has the extra work/is stretched etc and not held back (they certainly tried to do that with me) and you do sometimes need to really pester the school until they do something about it. Is there a teacher there that you know that you could get "on side"? That helped my mum when she used to do battle with the head with his obstinate attitude that only age mattered.

Good luck!

icklepicklesmum · 14/07/2010 21:11

I hope your 4 miracles continue to do well

bye

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Lougle · 14/07/2010 21:12

I just caught your latest comment to me. What is unreal about expecting a bright child to see natural forms of mathematical and scientific patterns? After all, most of the things that are taught were first seen in nature.

ninah · 14/07/2010 21:14

entirely agree ppp

mrz · 14/07/2010 21:15

icklepicklesmum I'm sure we all appreciate how precious your daughter is to you and can empathise with your desire to make sure she gets the best education possible.

May I ask what level your daughter achieved in Y1 ?

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Lougle · 14/07/2010 21:19

"I feel for your daughter, not because of her condition and the help she needs though!"

Ouch

domesticsluttery · 14/07/2010 21:22

Yes it is wonderful that you have your daughter, given the circumstances. But I think you do have to step back and seperate the fact that she is a little miracle from the fact that she is just a normal bright little girl.

DD was born early, after we were told three times during the pregnancy to go home and wait for a miscarriage as from the scans there was no way that she would survive. She wasn't breathing at birth and had to be recussitated and spent some time in SCBU. But she is now a normal, bright 4 year old, no different to any other child in her class.

Of course we all want what is best for our children. I admit myself to coming on here at times for a rant when I think one of mine is being treated unfairly! But sometimes I may over-react slightly... (just don't quote me on that next time I'm ranting).

Many of us have been supportive, you just don't seem to see it as supportive. I have told you that I have a DS in Year 1 who is in a similar position, and that my other DS has just finished Year 2 in a similar position, and that it has all been fine. That is what forums are for, sharing experiences and learning from how other people have dealt with the same thing.

As it happens I am amazed that DS2 is ahead in the areas that he is at the end of Year 1. During the past 12 months he has been having seizures, sometimes two or three times a day. His asthma has also got worse, and at one stage it was thought that he would need surgery due to a kidney problem. He is also under observation for borderline Growth Hormone Defficiency, and if it is decided that he needs treatment for it he will have to have daily injections all the way through to puberty. So you see, he is my miracle too.

Every child is incredibly special to his or her parents, and every parent wants their children to do well. But you have to remember not to lose sight of reality.

claire70 · 14/07/2010 21:24

2B, Mrz (is the answer to your question)

SanctiMoanyArse · 14/07/2010 21:25

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SanctiMoanyArse · 14/07/2010 21:26

Oh I am a miracle; aprents lost 5 babies before I arrived, stillbirths / rubella

has no impact on me of my worth though: am a miracle to mum and a regular human being to everyone else, rightly so.

Wordsonascreen · 14/07/2010 21:29

Really? IEP's and G and T's (yuck.. the only good one has blue sapphire in it)

Shes only at best a year ahead of her peers.

Good god woman calm down

Love the drip feed miracle child by the way.

Classic.

domesticsluttery · 14/07/2010 21:29

"I feel for your daughter, not because of her condition and the help she needs though!"

Oh FGS!

Let's hope you don't make such charming comments to your child's teachers, otherwise I would understand why they don't turn up!

domesticsluttery · 14/07/2010 21:30

Anyone else noticing similarities between this thread and another a few days ago about a 3yr old who was "advanced"?

Are there really that many mums out there who think like this...?

domesticsluttery · 14/07/2010 21:32

This one

Wordsonascreen · 14/07/2010 21:32

yy the 3 year old that could count to 10

I actually tried to offer some sensible advice as did many others and was roundly ignored.

Well that'll learn me

claire70 · 14/07/2010 21:37

I think the OP has gone now...

If you read the first posts, you can see how worried she was, and she was probably feeling upset before she even posted.

Maybe she has cause to be worried... only two children above average (out of 70?), teacher doesn't turn up for a scheduled meeting, bad experience in reception year.

Then people say "well I'm happy with my kids school" and later others say "your DD isn't all that" and then the OP starts to talk about whether she is a good mother or not. The last comment was below the belt and unnecessary, but maybe she felt provoked. She still should not have said that, but then she had been called passive -aggressive earlier.

domesticsluttery · 14/07/2010 21:42

Clearly the answer is not to bother trying to help!

Stick to chat and camping in future...

Lougle · 14/07/2010 21:44

Don't worry. I am confident that having

-spent countless hours in the last few weeks supporting DD1 in preschool because they were struggling with her
-taken huge amounts of time writing reports, initiating and maintaining the Statementing process
-secured a place at a Special school that professionals all thought would be impossible
-applying for and being awarded DLA
-applying for, appealing and securing a blue badge so that we can go out with her
-attended numerous appointments with varying professionals
-made modifications to our home to keep her safe
-the list goes on....

DD1 is doing OK with me as her Mum. But, thank you for your concern, of course. Good to know someone else is looking out for her

claire70 · 14/07/2010 21:46

Lougle - who are you talking to? Who else is looking out for your daughter?